Tree planting

[sodbuster]

There is a large area of ground neighbouring me that they are trying to get trees planted on. General consensus in the area is that they are not wanted as it will spoil a very scenic area/view point.
Has anyone had any success stopping planting going ahead?
All surveys have been passed so no joy in finding rare birds, plants etc.

 

[Gong Farmer]

Point out that the plastic tree guards they will use will cancel out all the carbon capture benefits of the trees, so best to leave them off. Then they'll only get 10-20% take.

 

[sodbuster]

Dont think they use them for sitca spruce unfortunately

 

[john432]

It will look a lot better green with Sitka, than if it was left ungrazed to revert to scrub..

 

[sodbuster]

Dont think they use them for sitca spruce unfortunately

 

[sodbuster]

It will look a lot better green with Sitka, than if it was left ungrazed to revert to scrub..

It wont get to that stage. Someone will graze it

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Under what grounds do you hope to stop him?

in planning terms no one has a right to a view?

or am I missing something?

 

[sodbuster]

Under what grounds do you hope to stop him?

in planning terms no one has a right to a view?

or am I missing something?

Just would be a shame to spoil an area of natural beauty. When it's gone its gone

 

[thorpe]

i know it goes against the grain but i dont think i will plant another tree. in my opinion they are a liability if not to you they will be to the next generation. eg we have had to cut down trees that were planted 40 years ago for screening for a grain store , filling gutters with leaves bloody nightmare, roadside trees having council order put on them trim up or else , bloody nightmare.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Just would be a shame to spoil an area of natural beauty. When it's gone its gone

I suppose it depends on your outlook. Trees may not be a long term thing in most farms history. The view will always be there just out of your view for some time.

unless you offer to buy their land I don’t think you can nor should have an axe to grind.

if you were my neighbour I wouldn’t be impressed, no one is entitled to a view, except of course the llelandi 2 feet from your house windows example

 

[capfits]

Just would be a shame to spoil an area of natural beauty. When it's gone its gone

No it is not.
We have bits that have been commercially forested since 1900 serving as perfectly good grazing.
Some of it is returning to commercial forestry.
And if we go back 300 years the place would be covered with woodland, Birch,Oaks, Pines and the such.

 

[betweenthelines]

Just would be a shame to spoil an area of natural beauty. When it's gone its gone

Be careful what you wish for @sodbuster

Do you want someone dictating what you do on your farm just so their preferred view can be maintained?

 

[egbert]

OP notwithstanding, it's a sad reality that between the historic separation between UK forestry and farming (where in many Euro countries they're closely tied, if not the same thing), and the current 'rewilding/anti-farmer/carbon capture fantasy' lobby, further alienating many of us toward planting trees, that i think a lot of us are less inclined to plant than we might be.
UK laws on land use once planted aren't helping... IE, plant farmland, and it'll be a devil to take it back to farmland later

I've long planted odd corners of ground, up to 2-3 acres, seeing trees as a growing crop to be harvested when I'm older.

Now?...i'm finding myself near to lobbying agin the idea.

 

[LandcruiserLad]

It must be wrong for a foreigner, a multi National company or even London living knob head to plant trees in communities which they have no part of.
It’s rich ass holes looking to pass on wealth tax free from one pot to another

With any luck, there are so many trees being planted that a disease will decimate them.
Dutch elm, Ash dieback and chestnuts are all dying here already.

hopefully karma will do it’s job.
I feel for you.

 

[toquark]

Commercial trees are just a crop to be harvested the same as any other. They can and I believe should be integrated to many farming systems as a method of spreading risk and adding value, particularly in the hills. There no reason a good commercial farm can’t operate alongside a commercial forest.

As @egbert suggests, we’ve lost our forest culture in this country, on the continent many farmers are woodsmen and see the forest as an integral part to the farming business.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Commercial trees are just a crop to be harvested the same as any other. They can and I believe should be integrated to many farming systems as a method of spreading risk and adding value, particularly in the hills. There no reason a good commercial farm can’t operate alongside a commercial forest.

As @egbert suggests, we’ve lost our forest culture in this country, on the continent many farmers are woodsmen and see the forest as an integral part to the farming business.

Yes but the problem is once u plant it u cant just put it back to agri so easily which is a balls

 

[egbert]

Yes but the problem is once u plant it u cant just put it back to agri so easily which is a balls

it's a major impediment to gov planting plans

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Yes but the problem is once u plant it u cant just put it back to agri so easily which is a balls

another example of the opposite of joined up thinking from our government, you can only destroy irreplaceable old growth woodland if it is for a train track!!!

 

[toquark]

Problem is in the lowlands, particularly in England, by planting trees, you often devalue the land. It usually ends up being the preserve of the state sector or charities. Very few private estates or farms would actively choose to do it, even if they may be sympathetic to the idea.

Consequently the pressure to plant ends up in the uplands, where wholesale planting of farms can very quickly and permanently alter the culture and aesthetics of the place, leading to understandable conflict.

Like many problems in uk land management, it fundamentally stems from an overvalued land market which is divorced from productive capability.

 

[Hilly]

You all need to keep in mind the op is talking about sitca spruce , monoculture attached to another block of approx 600 acre, all owned by absent owners just investing. Ruins rural community’s.