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Trees - the fantasy and the reality
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<blockquote data-quote="egbert" data-source="post: 8121812" data-attributes="member: 9965"><p>my livestock can scarcely hold their head above water.</p><p>My farming profits - which are often considerable- are almost wholly subsidy driven.</p><p></p><p>Off 600 hectares, I produce about a tonne of wool a year.</p><p>A half decent sitka plantation is doing 10-15 tonnes of harvestable mass per hectare per year.</p><p>I forget the conversion equation to give you a carbon tonnage, but it blows wool, and livestock, and peat out of the window.</p><p>I'm not advocating, or supporting blanket monocultures, but the numbers are there for anyone to see.</p><p></p><p>'In house managed forestry'?</p><p> Perhaps you think everything is like the plant/neglect/clearfell abomination as practised in most UK upland forestry.</p><p>Go to the alps, go to scandinavia, see how it can be done. </p><p></p><p>Look, i'm a multi-generational hill livestockman. I couldn't be much more immersed in it.</p><p>But I do wish some of us would be a bit less blinkered about growing trees as a crop.</p><p>What I've planted has been some of the best work I've ever done...in shelter terms if nothing else.</p><p>We need to see the benefits, and farm them accordingly....not allow the rewilding/carbon credit fraudsters et al dictate nonsensical policy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="egbert, post: 8121812, member: 9965"] my livestock can scarcely hold their head above water. My farming profits - which are often considerable- are almost wholly subsidy driven. Off 600 hectares, I produce about a tonne of wool a year. A half decent sitka plantation is doing 10-15 tonnes of harvestable mass per hectare per year. I forget the conversion equation to give you a carbon tonnage, but it blows wool, and livestock, and peat out of the window. I'm not advocating, or supporting blanket monocultures, but the numbers are there for anyone to see. 'In house managed forestry'? Perhaps you think everything is like the plant/neglect/clearfell abomination as practised in most UK upland forestry. Go to the alps, go to scandinavia, see how it can be done. Look, i'm a multi-generational hill livestockman. I couldn't be much more immersed in it. But I do wish some of us would be a bit less blinkered about growing trees as a crop. What I've planted has been some of the best work I've ever done...in shelter terms if nothing else. We need to see the benefits, and farm them accordingly....not allow the rewilding/carbon credit fraudsters et al dictate nonsensical policy [/QUOTE]
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