Triticale for bulls

[J 1177]

I'm toying with the idea of growing some triticale instead of a second wheat on 30 acres of heavy land we have. If I did grow it I would like to feed it, currently my ration is 60% barley 40% Wheat. I was thinking it may replace the wheat part?
Any experience?

 

[Agrivator]

It's not easy to tell the difference, so triticale can be used in the same way as wheat. It is after all a Wheat/Rye Hybrid.

 

[Mrfarmjunk]

I’m interested in growing triticale too, I’ll be following this.

 

[Nearly]

Full rate straw shortener

 

[melted welly]

I grow it in fields with forestry on 3 sides. The deer, rabbits and pigeons will annihilate w.wheat, barley and osr in these fields but don’t really bother the triticale. Sell for feed, protein higher than wheat and you get a good bout of straw after it. Not the easiest to get a clean sample off combine in a catchy year.

 

[czechmate]

I get quite enough whole ears in my sample, which was quite a nuisance when I had a roller mill. Now I have a hammer mill I think it a benefit as adding some fibre. If I wanted to sell some I am sure there would be deductions involved. In fact, I did sell a few trailers last season but sold it milled
It does grow quite tall but is not prone to going flat. Is less likely to be grazed as has been said. In a low input system it will be more reliable than wheat but you will never get to a wheat yield by pushing it.
For our Bulls we do a mix of trit(or wheat), oats and barley

 

[bobk]

I considered growing it , until I found out the seed was ridiculous money , no one wanted to buy the finished article , and every chance it would be flatter than a nuns chest come harvest , so I'm oot . good break crop though

 

[czechmate]

I considered growing it , until I found out the seed was ridiculous money , no one wanted to buy the finished article , and every chance it would be flatter than a nuns chest come harvest , so I'm oot . good break crop though

A good break crop for what?
Certainly when I grew it in the UK, I never actually sold any "triticale" it all went as the first bucket in a lorry of wheat. It's what my merchant told me to do!

 

[bobk]

A good break crop for what?
Certainly when I grew it in the UK, I never actually sold any "triticale" it all went as the first bucket in a lorry of wheat. It's what my merchant told me to do!

Actually my phone call to you was about some trit seed how we've moved on ....

 

[czechmate]

Actually my phone call to you was about some trit seed how we've moved on ....

I’m sure it was spring wheat in spring 13. I never was sure of the significance of “spring” wheat for feed.

 

[bobk]

I’m sure it was spring wheat in spring 13. I never was sure of the significance of “spring” wheat for feed.

Indeed , you're correct again , the SW was due to me sowing not a yard in 2012 and desperation of having not to buy in fodder again , a costly lesson .

 

[RushesToo]

Actually my phone call to you was about some trit seed how we've moved on ....

Sell price is supposed to be £10 off wheat. Anyone got a heap you can have some from?

 

[czechmate]

Indeed , you're correct again , the SW was due to me sowing not a yard in 2012 and desperation of having not to buy in fodder again , a costly lesson .

2012 was a bitch. That and my son flying off to Aus in mid sept leaving me to deal with it all is a very large part of the reason for moving here

 

[bobk]

2012 was a bitch. That and my son flying off to Aus in mid sept leaving me to deal with it all is a very large part of the reason for moving here

We should have gone too , ran out of fodder 30th jan ... cost me a fortune , then we sowed sb in first week of march only to have 2 foot of snow on it in april .

 

[CollCrofter]

I've grown triticale undersown with grass for a few years now. Great bulky crop and the cows and bull did well on it.

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/triticale-as-a-baled-silage.94770/

 

[J 1177]

Ooh sorry just got back to this thread. I'm going to give it a go on 30 acres thanks for the advice.

 

[czechmate]

Ooh sorry just got back to this thread. I'm going to give it a go on 30 acres thanks for the advice.

Don’t sow early

 

[Mrfarmjunk]

When’s best time to sow it? Mid October?

 

[czechmate]

Yes. Not before, really

 

[RushesToo]

Yes. Not before, really

@czechmate @Mrfarmjunk Just to get a feel for what you are saying - when was your harvest, what is the temperature when you plant and the how long to first frost and what's the rainfall like? I ask because your mid Oct. might be very different.