Triton direct seed drill

mo!

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
York

Interestingly on this video they say they like high draft drills because an 8m drill that only takes 160hp to pull 'isn't doing anything'.....
That is one of the worst demonstration videos I've ever seen. All this fancy drone filming but no actual shots of how it works. Depth wheels up in the air, working through loosened soil when it's meant to be a direct drill, no explanation of how it works, half built products, what a shambles.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield

Interestingly on this video they say they like high draft drills because an 8m drill that only takes 160hp to pull 'isn't doing anything'.....

maybe a wheat field that's been glyphosated for blackgrass ? is not the best place to demostre how easy it is to get rid of black grass ?
 
It looks like a few fields have been cultivated before drilling.

I suppose if if gets the seed in the ground then that's pretty much all a drill needs to do anyway so that's good. I doubt it works in high residue situations all that well because it will block and residue will wrap around. But if your are looking for a very basic drill with no interest in depth control, seed firming, soil disturbance etc. then it may work absolutely fine because seeds can grow anywhere if they get soil.

What you may have to do is use more cultivation to manage away problem areas if you come up against issues such as hard ground, slugs, residue issues etc. so it all depends what you want from the drill
 

kamloops

Member
Location
Kent
I beginning to wonder if they just happen to have a very high yielding farm... and any drill or aminoa type product would produce 10t/ha!
I’ve yet to see a happy customer matching the manufactures claims.
Hope though that they really have stumbled onto something!
 
They have had some good yields. There must be something in it.

I doubt its the drill. Guy on here used a Cross Slot and get 2.5t acre of wheat, York on here used to promote the Cross Slot as a yield enhancing drill (as did Cross Slot NZ) and those sorts of claims never rationally hold water. Clive had best yields from broadcast once. Any claims like this is insulting farmers intelligence

Buy a drill if you like the drill and it suits your aims but never on the basis it enhances yield - the seed doesnt have a conscience about what put it in the ground!
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
They have had some good yields. There must be something in it.

So has the bloke I saw in the pub last week ;-)

Have you say the video you posted on twitter actualy explaining the Coulter vs just making wild claims re yield and blackgrsss actualy made some sense and seemed pretty logical
 

Shutesy

Moderator
Arable Farmer
I still don't think mauling things in in a wet clay field in December is anywhere near ideal. I do get the feeling the AminoA flow is doing more towards the yields then the drill here so I'm going to try a few trial areas this year to see what we can achieve.
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
So has the bloke I saw in the pub last week ;-)

Have you say the video you posted on twitter actualy explaining the Coulter vs just making wild claims re yield and blackgrsss actualy made some sense and seemed pretty logical
Yep seen that, did explain some things
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
I still don't think mauling things in in a wet clay field in December is anywhere near ideal. I do get the feeling the AminoA flow is doing more towards the yields then the drill here so I'm going to try a few trial areas this year to see what we can achieve.
Yes I've spoken to a few about the amino, rather than front loading loads of fungicide I think we definitely need to be looking more at bio stimulants and micro nutrition to give plants a healthy defence mechanism. Especially when varieties like Siskin and Costello still get 80~90% of yield untreated.
 

Fred

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Mid Northants
To be honest Simon Chaplin talks sense when he says forget growing half barns full of spring linseed , spring oats , etc and concentrate on drilling wheat and rape .
They make money, it might not be touchy feely or even in the best interests of the soil ,environment but crops losing money ,
I would rather be making money and not be "Sustainable" than broke ,

Drilling wheat into wet cold snot in December is not the cleverest idea , but it showed the concept

Now whether his drill and coulter are the answer I dont know , but cold hard facts , 1.7 t acre of spring oats , 1.3 t acre of winter beans .0.8 t acre of spring beans DO not make me money.

PS I met him at Groundswell on his stand , hes not a friend or colleague , I dont own his drill , or have shares in AminoA,
 

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
To be honest Simon Chaplin talks sense when he says forget growing half barns full of spring linseed , spring oats , etc and concentrate on drilling wheat and rape .
They make money, it might not be touchy feely or even in the best interests of the soil ,environment but crops losing money ,
I would rather be making money and not be "Sustainable" than broke ,

Drilling wheat into wet cold snot in December is not the cleverest idea , but it showed the concept

Now whether his drill and coulter are the answer I dont know , but cold hard facts , 1.7 t acre of spring oats , 1.3 t acre of winter beans .0.8 t acre of spring beans DO not make me money.

PS I met him at Groundswell on his stand , hes not a friend or colleague , I dont own his drill , or have shares in AminoA,
From all we have learnt about BG over the years, do we not think that growing just WW/WW/OSR rotations were a big contributor to BG getting so bad in the first place???
Mauling in WW in Dec can't be seen as a long term solution to the problem can it??
Maybe there are pockets of the country were it will work, but to me it seems a severe and damaging technique to enable flawed system to work...
 
Well I'm really glad to have seen the video as I wondered where I was going wrong. Obviously the low draft route is flawed so I'm going to put a bigger tractor on the drill and leave the handbrake on to make sure I use enough grunt to get higher yields. Thank you Triton.
 

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