Triton direct seed drill

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
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Lincolnshire
Lee your just no fun anymore showing a triton doing a good job and talking sense with no crazy claims of drilling in standing water last week and expecting 5t/acre etc etc. Where’s this thread going hopefully not in this sensible positive direction. It wouldn’t have got to 70 pages and probably the most followed thread on here by. Ring like this. This thread has got most of us through 3 lockdowns and a pandemic!!

@warksfarmer - we'd all be interested in some split field #aminoA trials too please.
 
Update:

Pics 1-3 late nov drilled wheat. Just had N1

Pics 4-8 early nov drilled wheat. Just had N1

Pics 9-10 spring wheat gone into ploughed ground yesterday after maize and sewage cake applied. Will be rolled this week.

Pics 11-12 spring wheat into a topped cover crop today.

Pics 13-16 early oct drilled triticale. Just had N1.
They look good.
Are they all DD, if so how many years? What soil type, I think you have quite heavy stuff?
I'm looking for something that can be used opportunistically along with the front tank that we already have for the power harrow, mostly for sowing a lot of cover crops and the like.
 
They look good.
Are they all DD, if so how many years? What soil type, I think you have quite heavy stuff?
I'm looking for something that can be used opportunistically along with the front tank that we already have for the power harrow, mostly for sowing a lot of cover crops and the like.

Yes all DD growing crop pics.

Been messing with DD since 1996 when we started with a contractors 750 putting spring beans in. Not religious about it though so will only use it if appropriate.
Soils vary from loam suitable for roots to clay which should be permanent grass.
The Triton has the best closing system on the market full stop. Tried them all and nothing touches it. It’s rare now to see any seed after planting unlike open disc or tine slots previously have left us.
 

Alistair Nelson

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Mixed Farmer
Location
E Yorks
This really has got me thinking. once I’ve got over the ludicrous marketing, yield claims, attitude and appalling engineering / packaging of the product.

The coulter system and as Lee has shown closing is nearly a game changer and running costs / maintenance shouldn’t be too crazy compared to disc drills

but why the crazy horse power requirement all we see is cats /jd crawlers on 3 or 3.6m machines makes a claydon, DTS, Murzi seem positively frugal

because for me running a front tank with different options it should be up there and as you can see is niggling in the back of my mind but!!
 

clbarclay

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Location
Worcestershire
The size of tractors seems very understandable to me.

Each seeding tine runs about two inches deeper than seeding depth. There are a lot of these tines as the drill has a fairly close row spacing. Then you have half as many again brines running an inch or two deep for slot closing. Finally used in marginal winter conditions where there just isn't as much grip as when it's dry.
 

Alistair Nelson

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Mixed Farmer
Location
E Yorks
The size of tractors seems very understandable to me.

Each seeding tine runs about two inches deeper than seeding depth. There are a lot of these tines as the drill has a fairly close row spacing. Then you have half as many again brines running an inch or two deep for slot closing. Finally used in marginal winter conditions where there just isn't as much grip as when it's dry.

Yes starting to see it abit, marginal conditions and that extra 2 inches of depth, are the covering blades set 2’deeper than sowing depth also where do you set those. I suppose as well due to the marginal condictions your are always drilling slightly deeper to keep the seed away from slugs as previous generations always used to tell us rightly or wrongly.

200hp will pull a Claydon 3m yet these are 360hp we’re seeing all the time on Twitter etc what are others pulling them with
 
This really has got me thinking. once I’ve got over the ludicrous marketing, yield claims, attitude and appalling engineering / packaging of the product.

The coulter system and as Lee has shown closing is nearly a game changer and running costs / maintenance shouldn’t be too crazy compared to disc drills

but why the crazy horse power requirement all we see is cats /jd crawlers on 3 or 3.6m machines makes a claydon, DTS, Murzi seem positively frugal

because for me running a front tank with different options it should be up there and as you can see is niggling in the back of my mind but!!

The hp in the videos ‘isn’t’ a requirement for the drill.

It’s because people want to drill late in wet conditions, but the point is you need bigger hp on any make of drill to do that late on in the year.

If I could justify it I’d put a 250hp crawler on ours though as I think tracks suit the system better. I’ve looked at soucy tracks and for the price your better off buying something like a 20 series JD T or a Cat 35/45/55/65. Problem is they are a one trick pony and what else would it be used for in a direct drilling system? Bit of subsoiling/moleing maybe but that’s it. At least with wheels you’ve got a spraying and corn cart tractor as well.
 
Yes starting to see it abit, marginal conditions and that extra 2 inches of depth, are the covering blades set 2’deeper than sowing depth also where do you set those. I suppose as well due to the marginal condictions your are always drilling slightly deeper to keep the seed away from slugs as previous generations always used to tell us rightly or wrongly.

200hp will pull a Claydon 3m yet these are 360hp we’re seeing all the time on Twitter etc what are others pulling them with

230hp on wheels here. I could of got away with 180hp what I drilled last weekend because it was nicer soil though. So it depends on the soil and conditions rather than the drill itself.
The drill likes forward speed which also adds a bit of power requirement.

I’d also say a lot of the vids are showing tractors that the farms have available from previous establishment systems. So they’ve just put the Triton onto ‘the drill’ tractor that was probably pulling an 8m vaderstad historically. Once into the Triton properly you might find they downsize the tractors a bit as well.
 
Triton drilled grass

Triton sown spring wheat rolled as the grounds stoney so thinking about combine damage.
 

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goodevans

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Very impressive looking crops,is the concept just a very heavy duty following time (called a closing blade) following the seeding as I fail to actually find how it is different
 
Very impressive looking crops,is the concept just a very heavy duty following time (called a closing blade) following the seeding as I fail to actually find how it is different

The seeding blade is unique in its own right but the closing blade is where it’s at. It’s brilliant and as long as you can travel at a decent speed the days of seed on the surface are long gone.

The seeding blade has a tail which helps to hold the depth and distribute the seed into two rows from one seeding tine.
 

goodevans

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The seeding blade is unique in its own right but the closing blade is where it’s at. It’s brilliant and as long as you can travel at a decent speed the days of seed on the surface are long gone.

The seeding blade has a tail which helps to hold the depth and distribute the seed into two rows from one seeding tine.
So what is it that makes the closing blade brilliant,is it because it is a blade as opposed to a tine?
 
Do they have auto reset protection for stoney going ?

There is a stone version which uses rubber blocks. I’m afraid that’s all I know as I haven’t seen one. We were breaking shearbolts last autumn so it was discussed fitting them but it turned out to be a bad batch of shearbolts so there wasn’t any need in the end. I believe there’s one working in Scotland though so give Simon a call and he’ll give you the details.
 

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