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Discussion in 'Direct Drilling Machinery' started by Bramble, Mar 2, 2018.
200% Gross Margin
From the website
'false seed bed 1 100 grass seeds 40% control 60 seeds remain
false seed bed 2 60 grass seeds 60% control 24 seeds remain
false seed bed 3 24 grass seeds 90% control 2 seeds remain
Three false seed beds can give 1000% better cultural grass-weed control than one false seed bed'.
1000% ...really ????
They used the same calculator they used when working out one 4m drill could replace 4 6m drills
I'm surprised that everyone misses the point of the drill and dismissed it as more of the same. The reason it was designed was to help overcome seed death through lack of oxygen. This is particular to certain soils where when drilled wet with a press wheel it can encapsulate the seed and kill it. Mine is one of those and he like me found exactly the same that the disc drill was planting but killing the seed late season.
The undercutting to give a drainage slot and the Coulter places the seed out of the wet. The slot is closed by sideways pressure not downward so not forming an airtight seal. Also by placing the seed high and remote from the trench it is supposed to keep it out of slugs way.
I'm not going to comment on the claims but can see a rationale for the design on target soils.
I cannot drill late in the autumn here as the seed will die thus disallowing me one of the best method of BG control.
I think any drill that extends the reach of no till should be welcomed on its merits but must say the guy needs some help with basic maths.
I agree it's an interesting design but as you say some of the claims being made are rather far fetched
Our basic entry level 2.9m Triton cost less than a grain trailor and has made mockery of all our previous drills, agrii say our crops have 100% potential and our best crops for many years, I will report yields in summer but already saved 30k in herbicide and zero black grass
Sorry for the bluntness...how much and did it include the actual seed hopper and metering system as I found the prices quoted on the website misleading?
What do you mean by saved £30k in herbicide though? I get that you haven't applied it but I can save herbicide if I grow spring crops or don't apply it any chance of more detail?
I'm sure Agri would say your crops have 100% potential. Zero blackgrass is a bold claim.
I hope you prove correct. I will buy one.
Its very simple drill very cheap very strong snd drill it cost £13000 plus £6000 for seed hopper. No rolling. We just put lexus on straight behind the drill onto damp soil and being damp the lexus or the November drilling has led to clean crops so very cheap farming
The videos make sense, with regards to build quality
I'm just a little confused as to low disturbance , or is it not a problem, with regards to black grass,most of the BG protagonists say we need low disturbance
How much deeper does the tine run than the seed release point?
The tines look a bit heath-robinson , do they last or wear out ?
Sounds like you understand the drill. Each seeding blade travels 7 inches deep, the seed is deposited at 1.5 inches and is held on a platform then the rear time heaves the field sideways and up wards shutting the seed soots tight shut. Only the top of the field it appears disturbed but below 2 inches it is left as is. The blades are covered in a tungsten type steel and we didn't need any replacements after 800 acres. The blades don't look modern but they work well. I think the simplicity is why it is affordable and it works so well.
How about some photos of the fields shown being drilled especially the one in Kelso and under snow. Should be showing well now.
Drilling is irrelevant it's the plants we need to see to vindicate your claims of a good drill. Anyone or anything can bury seed.
I know what you are saying. We are so used to seeing videos of drills in easy soils etc all I can say is we drilled at 220 and 240kg seed because we have no experience of the Triton and it was late but it all seems to have come up so looks very thick crop.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Is your surname Wells?
As in HG?
been and seen the crops no different to other crops in the area with good rooting they catch up fast,the rooting zone is were the yieldcomes from.seed into solid rooting zone will not yield,