Trump v greta

[czechmate]

80's.....must have been early 80's....and @An Gof was in his final year ?

Two tribes was 84

 

[An Gof]

Two tribes was 84

Thank you, that rascal @Sid obviously thinks I have had a hard paper round

 

[Bald Rick]

Crickey... you’d have thunk she could have raised a smile for Brian. After all, he’s been banging on about the environment for 50 years (in between talking to plants) but hardly even a twitch.

 

[abitdaft]

I have viewed the entire Davos speech
Greta is impressive in a confidence context given her age, however there is little substance to the actual speech, is disjointed and is preachy, petulant and very naive in its content, demands and timeframe of the ‘demands’. It shows a complete misunderstanding of intergovernmental political relationships and socioeconomics.
Hell, the Brexit negotiations illustrate just how difficult and complicated these can be.
Serious politics needs serious politicians and I don’t think Greta is.
I don’t question the motive, conviction or sentiments but I do question the delivery.
The issue of emissions is serious and should be taken to be so rather than dumbed down as it is by this. I think this is shown here where we are largely talking about her rather than the issue she is trying to represent.
I wish her well but doubt she will be any more than a headline of the time.

I wish her well but doubt she will be any more than a headline of the time.

Problem with your last sentence is that she is being taken seriously by the media, the UN, the wider public. She is on stage with the likes of Trump and Prince Charles and yet she is only 16! David Attenborough is her new "pal" . We as farmers need to be much more savvy about what we say on here, look at Monbiot, he uses TFF as a source of embarrassing postings to beat us with on twitter, these are direct quotes taken from farmers and it makes us look ridiculous! Don't be too surprised when she wins some sort of Nobel prize as I suspect that she is going to be more than a headline.

 

[Raider112]

I dare you to tell any woman you think is not spending her time wisely that it must be because her appearance makes her look ill and that she needs a man so that she can do actual important things.

I then hope your reflexes are quick because your balls are going to be a prime target.

You can consider yourself added to my mental list of stupid sh!t men say about women.

So she needs a girlfriend then?

 

[Pilatus]

Crickey... you’d have thunk she could have raised a smile for Brian. After all, he’s been banging on about the environment for 50 years (in between talking to plants) but hardly even a twitch.

I am sure there is something not quite right with that girl , one can see it in her eyes. She is so stone faced all the time ,it is as if she is in fear of someone.
Greeta really showed herself up at a press conference ,when she was asked to comment on what had been said by those at Gavos, she was completely dumb struck, not having a clue what to say, just passed the question on.
We can all rant,but backing up our rant with realistic and practical cures to our rant takes another type of person.
The saying "Empty Vessels make most noise springs to mind".
It beggars believe to me,how those a lot more educated and in high places than me can influence power choose not to see what I say above. Perhaps they do but turn a blind eye to what they see

 

[Doc]

“Problem with your last sentence is that she is being taken seriously by the media, the UN, the wider public.”

She isn’t being taken seriously, other than lip service, by any of the serious politicians though.
Prince Charles? Really, who gives a hoot about him?
She can preach all she likes but I doubt the Chinese, Indians, Indonesians, Malaysians, Middle East, Horn of Africa, South America’s etc, or indeed any other large global players will alter policy because of Greta ( or David for that matter).
Donald won’t, why should they?
All it took in the Maldives with talk of sea level rise and a load of good eco intention 7 years ago was a Coup d’etat to put paid to all that.
The UN? Whats that got to do with anything? It has no power of global political reform.
I hope and are happy to be proved wrong and that the globe unites, holds hands and puts aside individual
aspirations for the greater good but I really don’t think it’s likely to happen and certainly not before 2021 as Greta demands it should.

 

[Scribus]

“Problem with your last sentence is that she is being taken seriously by the media, the UN, the wider public.”

She isn’t being taken seriously, other than lip service, by any of the serious politicians though.
Prince Charles? Really, who gives a hoot about him?
She can preach all she likes but I doubt the Chinese, Indians, Indonesians, Malaysians, Middle East, Horn of Africa, South America’s etc, or indeed any other large global players will alter policy because of Greta ( or David for that matter).
Donald won’t, why should they?
All it took in the Maldives with talk of sea level rise and a load of good eco intention 7 years ago was a Coup d’etat to put paid to all that.
The UN? Whats that got to do with anything? It has no power of global political reform.
I hope and are happy to be proved wrong and that the globe unites, holds hands and puts aside individual
aspirations for the greater good but I really don’t think it’s likely to happen and certainly not before 2021 as Greta demands it should.

Canada can be added to the list since they've two fingered the various protocols to carry on fracking.

 

[Canada Farmer]

Ah, but how do we agree on what is to be done when there is so much debate on what the problem actually is?

Ah, but how do we agree on what is to be done when there is so much debate on what the problem actually is?

Robust, rational debate backed up by nonmanipulated science, not hearsay or anecdotal observation or scripted "emotion".
Or in plain English, cut the bull s**t!!! ?

 

[Canada Farmer]

“Problem with your last sentence is that she is being taken seriously by the media, the UN, the wider public.”

She isn’t being taken seriously, other than lip service, by any of the serious politicians though.
Prince Charles? Really, who gives a hoot about him?
She can preach all she likes but I doubt the Chinese, Indians, Indonesians, Malaysians, Middle East, Horn of Africa, South America’s etc, or indeed any other large global players will alter policy because of Greta ( or David for that matter).
Donald won’t, why should they?
All it took in the Maldives with talk of sea level rise and a load of good eco intention 7 years ago was a Coup d’etat to put paid to all that.
The UN? Whats that got to do with anything? It has no power of global political reform.
I hope and are happy to be proved wrong and that the globe unites, holds hands and puts aside individual
aspirations for the greater good but I really don’t think it’s likely to happen and certainly not before 2021 as Greta demands it should.

Personally given the fact that UN isn't even remotely democratically elected, means its got no mandate to do anything let alone set or implement any agendas.

 

[Smith31]

You might choose to accept it just as some choose to believe in turning water into wine, and there may be some truth in both, but I'll be buggered if I am going to be steamrollered into accepting the crap they spout as some sort of mystical cure which just happens to suit those who are very rich already. It's all about the money and if the greens really want to demonstrate their integrity then lets see them organise an anti coal protest march in Tiananmen Square rather than fart about pretending they have the answer just so long as the plebs in the west buy into their scam.

Better write to Boris to stop all green energy subsidies to farmers such as solar and wind as it's all a load of bull. I am sure the government scientists will believe you.

We could simply fire up the coal power stations, maybe even send the children of the unemployed down them?

 

[br jones]

Which one is an elected official .trump or Greta ?

 

[Mr Jones]

Problem with your last sentence is that she is being taken seriously by the media, the UN, the wider public. She is on stage with the likes of Trump and Prince Charles and yet she is only 16! David Attenborough is her new "pal" . We as farmers need to be much more savvy about what we say on here, look at Monbiot, he uses TFF as a source of embarrassing postings to beat us with on twitter, these are direct quotes taken from farmers and it makes us look ridiculous! Don't be too surprised when she wins some sort of Nobel prize as I suspect that she is going to be more than a headline.

Nobody takes the NPP seriously, just look at Kissinger.

 

[Bald Rick]

Nobody takes the NPP seriously, just look at Kissinger.

EU won in 2012 and Yasser Arafat in 1994 ...... he did like a nice explosion especially of an aeroplane

 

[Muck Spreader]

Which one is an elected official .trump or Greta ?

Is that a trick question?

 

[Bald Rick]

 

[ollie989898]

What solutions has the girl presented?

Typical teenager. No experience of life but all the answers.

You won't find anyone more environmentally aware than me but I know there are no straight solutions to this issue. Try telling the third world they can't burn coal but only after your own kids are forced to drink contaminated surface water.

 

[mwj]

I find it strange that people think you have to have the solution, before you can recognize the problem. If that were the case, this place would be a ghost town!

 

[bluegreen]

Greta reminds me of someone?

Now I remember

 

[Canada Farmer]

Problem with your last sentence is that she is being taken seriously by the media, the UN, the wider public. She is on stage with the likes of Trump and Prince Charles and yet she is only 16! David Attenborough is her new "pal" . We as farmers need to be much more savvy about what we say on here, look at Monbiot, he uses TFF as a source of embarrassing postings to beat us with on twitter, these are direct quotes taken from farmers and it makes us look ridiculous! Don't be too surprised when she wins some sort of Nobel prize as I suspect that she is going to be more than a headline.

Does the Nobel prize even mean anything ,nothing more than a token gesture much like the Time person of the Year.
If people want to look for inspirational people,rather than looking at the rich, the famous or those will a high media exposure, look closer to home , the ordinary people who's battles are day to day...