TS90 rear furrow width adjuster

Ley253

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It is the section of an arc which the top link hole describes.Talking of top links, I have three positions on the tractor, height wise. Which would be the best?
 

Howard150

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It is the section of an arc which the top link hole describes.Talking of top links, I have three positions on the tractor, height wise. Which would be the best?

Won’t make that much difference in yours Harry as it runs on lots of wheels. There are lots of people competing who run with the top link in a slot which further assists with the ‘outs’ In work the top link will run compressed - at the back of the slot - which is why it is so important that the top link runs parallel to the line of draught. Generally speaking on 4 furrows the softer the ground the higher the top link. The harder the ground the lower the top link.the reverse applies at the tractor end.

The higher the hitch point on the plough then the higher the back of the plough will lift. Similarly the greater effect it will have on top link sensing draft control.
 
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Ley253

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Thanks David,its that knowledge that I am lacking, never having ploughed a field commercially, let alone worked on an arable farm! When I made my quick entry links they were able to extend, but were locked in compression. Everyone would have it that I was wrong, so the next ones locked both ways!
 

Tonym

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Shropshire
Thanks David,its that knowledge that I am lacking, never having ploughed a field commercially, let alone worked on an arable farm! When I made my quick entry links they were able to extend, but were locked in compression. Everyone would have it that I was wrong, so the next ones locked both ways!

Why does it need to be locked in compression? It will stay there on its own.

All the ones I have made lock in the central position and shorten on entry and lengthen when coming out. Just forget to lock it central and see what happens - deep front furrow.

Must be right because one is used to good effect by a champion ploughman who posts on here.
 

Ley253

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Bath
Why does it need to be locked in compression? It will stay there on its own.

All the ones I have made lock in the central position and shorten on entry and lengthen when coming out. Just forget to lock it central and see what happens - deep front furrow.

Must be right because one is used to good effect by a champion ploughman who posts on here.
Quite, thats what mine did, but were free to extend on exit.
 

Howard150

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Yorkshire
Why does it need to be locked in compression? It will stay there on its own.

All the ones I have made lock in the central position and shorten on entry and lengthen when coming out. Just forget to lock it central and see what happens - deep front furrow.

Must be right because one is used to good effect by a champion ploughman who posts on here.

Not as daft as it sounds Tony. Have that extra hole in mine - to be used in conjunction with a longish dropper on the rear body. Locked in compression on the headland, the rear body is held off the ground on the ‘ins’ which means you can leave your ins as tidy as a plough with a hydraulic top link. Drawback is that the dropper is apt to cause you problems, as is the age that we are at remembering it all.

Come to think of it I don’t see any wrong in the use of hydraulic top links and lift links in the Classic Class. They were allowed when TCN’s were one of the mainstays of worldstyle.
 

Cordiale

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Not as daft as it sounds Tony. Have that extra hole in mine - to be used in conjunction with a longish dropper on the rear body. Locked in compression on the headland, the rear body is held off the ground on the ‘ins’ which means you can leave your ins as tidy as a plough with a hydraulic top link. Drawback is that the dropper is apt to cause you problems, as is the age that we are at remembering it all.

Come to think of it I don’t see any wrong in the use of hydraulic top links and lift links in the Classic Class. They were allowed when TCN’s were one of the mainstays of worldstyle.
The above sounds very intriguing, Dave. Any pictures or diagrams you can post, to show exactly how it works?
 

wuddy

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Scottish Borders
Some pictures of the back of my 59 will finish tidying it up at some point but it works as it is!
 

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Howard150

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The above sounds very intriguing, Dave. Any pictures or diagrams you can post, to show exactly how it works?

Sorry but plough out on loan. Tractor away in storage.

Basically after the ‘out’ then reset the latch to central on the headland. Lift the plough allowing the rear dropper to hang down lower the plough onto it, drop the plough tripping the latch then lock it once the front body is down. Pick the plough up and set in with the rear body held up off the ground. Let it back in similar to you would with a hydraulic top link.

Has its limitations especially if the plough is heavily weighted. The dropper can cause unwanted complications.

A few years ago one or two trailer men fixed a long dropper to the frame near the rear body in order to keep it up for the ins. Whether it was Luddited out or banned you seldom see it now.
 
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arcobob

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Sorry but plough out on loan. Tractor away in storage.

Basically after the ‘out’ then reset the latch to central on the headland. Lift the plough allowing the rear dropper to hang down lower the plough onto it, drop the plough tripping the latch then lock it once the front body is down. Pick the plough up and set in with the rear body held up off the ground. Let it back in similar to you would with a hydraulic top link.

Has its limitations especially if the plough is heavily weighted. The dropper can cause unwanted complications.

A few years ago one or two trailer men fixed a long dropper to the frame near the rear body in order to keep it up for the ins. Whether it was Luddited out or banned you seldom see it now.
I fitted one on the back of the back leg on a 59. It did make a very marginal difference but nobody objected. It has since been abandoned.
 

Ley253

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Bath
Love the cross shaft adjuster, but hate all that weight, if it needs all that , there is something wrong with it! To quote the late John Gwilliam ransomes demonstrater and world champion ploughman, " If they had needed to be heavier, we would have made them heavier"!
 

wuddy

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Love the cross shaft adjuster, but hate all that weight, if it needs all that , there is something wrong with it! To quote the late John Gwilliam ransomes demonstrater and world champion ploughman, " If they had needed to be heavier, we would have made them heavier"!
This was fine back in the day but we are now trying to penetrate ground compacted with 20ton tractors and thirty ton combines. Don’t think ransomes seen that coming when they were building ts54’s and ts59’s. Also when doing match work I tend to run with a longer top link than you would for commercial work which requires a bit more weight especially when ploughing shallow at starts and finishes! How much weight have you got added to your plough? The standard version didn’t have any additional weights when supplied new!
 

arcobob

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This was fine back in the day but we are now trying to penetrate ground compacted with 20ton tractors and thirty ton combines. Don’t think ransomes seen that coming when they were building ts54’s and ts59’s. Also when doing match work I tend to run with a longer top link than you would for commercial work which requires a bit more weight especially when ploughing shallow at starts and finishes! How much weight have you got added to your plough? The standard version didn’t have any additional weights when supplied new!
To answer all points I still have the plough and three similar ones. The chain guard is to keep grease off clothes but I have abandoned that idea—just don’t grease the chain. The weights are for the purposes listed above but also counter balance the wheel, especially on the finish when it is hung way out behind the tractor wheel. This gets the front furrow in quicker. All linkages have some slack in them and I am a great believer in stressing this out by keeping positive pressure on the top link and a rotational force clockwise on the lower links. I normally run 50kg on the outrigger and nothing else unless it is very hard. I cannot understand the practice of hanging weights high on the frame over the centre of the plough. This only raises the centre of gravity and causes instability.
 

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