Tupping 2017

[firther]

my dad usually gets the tups from Skipton so im not sure, but my local market was a very poor show, im sure there will be some decent stuff here usually something for every pocket im lead to understand!

cheers, I were away on me hols for texel sale on Thursday Friday, for what i'm looking for mixed sale might be a better choice then

 

[aangus]

Got 160 older ewes going to the beltex/texelx tups on the 7th October.
Then 255 younger/older ewes going with tups from the 10th November.
Was going to dip them all at the end of the month, will the tups still be ok to go with the ewes after dipping?
Can't get mobile dipper any sooner

 

[cheggars]

Apart from in July, I only use the softer 'cold' crayons for the same reason. Marks are clearer and stay longer IME.

For the netex harnes's ? Where do you get them ?

 

[neilo]

For the netex harnes's ? Where do you get them ?

I don't have Nettex harnesses (have been working through a big pile of freebies from FSL Bells, who must have been bought out nearly 20 years ago), but they take Nettex crayons. I can't remember where the last ones came from (I don't use many), but Shearwell sell 'cold' ones. http://www.shearwell.co.uk/p/619/sure-sired-marker-crayons

 

[Woolless]

Ive read somewere, possibly on a thread here about nz beltexes iirc, that length will be very important in lamb carcasses in future much more important than back ends. The loin is the most valuable part of the carcass so that makes sense. I think there were some processors working on a way to pay more for extra loin and less for leg or something too.

Aye and apparently shoulder is only 10% of the value of the carcase yet has equal influence with gigot and loin on the EUROP grade. Doesn't add up.

 

[MRT]

Bit of a different photo - we are using this one. Lloyd Charmoise 523 - the highest gigot scored Charmoise ever @neilo

 

[neilo]

View attachment 579304Bit of a different photo - we are using this one. Lloyd Charmoise 523 - the highest gigot scored Charmoise ever @neilo

I'm betting the others were from a far less accomplished breeder?

 

[MRT]

I'm betting the others were from a far less accomplished breeder?

Yes - Mrs Lloyd!!!

 

[hendrebc]

Loins have always been the most valuable cut, or at least for a couple of decades, yet pricing here is still based on the EUROP grid.
Nothing winds me up more than seeing weedy looking chops in a supermarket, with bugger all eye muscle area. It's no wonder folk think lamb's dear, when you only get half a scrap of neat on some of those chops.

If the processors rewarded better loins, then they'd get better loins. The technology & breeding is there already. If they pay premiums for bigots via EUROP, then that's what they'll get.

Aye and apparently shoulder is only 10% of the value of the carcase yet has equal influence with gigot and loin on the EUROP grade. Doesn't add up.

If they did get rid of the EUROP grid and make something more suited to loin value (as it sounds like they should) it would REALLY p**s off the beltex and other more extreme confirmation texel people

 

[shearerlad]

The bachelor pad.
Still 5 weeks waiting to see their ladies.

 

[neilo]

If they did get rid of the EUROP grid and make something more suited to loin value (as it sounds like they should) it would REALLY p**s off the beltex and other more extreme confirmation texel people

Actually, I was told the Beltex has a higher proportion of meat in the loin than most other breeds, there's just not enough of it (slow growth). I very much doubt they could get more (genetic) growth into them without losing a chunk of that fleshing though, and there appears to be little support for any breeding vehicle to do so. There are a small clique of recorded breeders, but hardly a big enough population of recorded sheep to make any real progress, and seemingly no support whatsoever for the idea from the breed society.

 

[Hch]

I don't have Nettex harnesses (have been working through a big pile of freebies from FSL Bells, who must have been bought out nearly 20 years ago), but they take Nettex crayons. I can't remember where the last ones came from (I don't use many), but Shearwell sell 'cold' ones. http://www.shearwell.co.uk/p/619/sure-sired-marker-crayons

We do have the all weather ones too
http://www.shearwell.co.uk/p/619/sure-sired-marker-crayons

 

[neilo]

We do have the all weather ones too
http://www.shearwell.co.uk/p/619/sure-sired-marker-crayons

I saw that, but they're cheaper locally , and too hard to leave much of a mark in November ime.

 

[unlacedgecko]

If anyone's short of tups I've a client selling age terminals.

2 x NZ Texel, 3 x English Texel and 3 x grade 1 Meatlinc. Should all do at least 1 more season, maybe 2.

£157.50 each.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

If anyone's short of tups I've a client selling age terminals.

2 x NZ Texel, 3 x English Texel and 3 x grade 1 Meatlinc. Should all do at least 1 more season, maybe 2.

£157.50 each.

How did they come to such a precise figure of £157.50?

 

[unlacedgecko]

How did they come to such a precise figure of £157.50?

I can make it £160 if you'd prefer to round it?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I can make it £160 if you'd prefer to round it?

I think I'd prefer them rounded down

 

[Sandpit Farm]

View attachment 579304Bit of a different photo - we are using this one. Lloyd Charmoise 523 - the highest gigot scored Charmoise ever @neilo

No balls??!! [emoji15]

 

[MRT]

No balls??!! [emoji15]

No need to get personal . Either they are pointing up, or they have fallen off. I will check later

 

[neilo]

No balls??!! [emoji15]

@MRT must have balls of steel. He went on to blame Mrs MRT for the animals that were inferior to 'his' best one.