Turbo rebuild / reconditioning ?

Deutzdx3

Member
Highly likely being it’s a deutz to be a kkk turbo, if so, readily available on the open market by most turbo recon places.
 

shumungus

Member
Livestock Farmer
I rebuild turbos and it's the heat that kills a turbo when you stop it , the exhaust wheel will be very hot after an engine has been pulling maybe 500°c+
When you let it idle it cools down to 100-150°c .
If you kill the engine while it's hot the heat travels along the turbo shaft boiling the oil on it and it starts to deposit carbon and can block the oil ways and drain oil ways and then the turbo fails
So the idle time is a cool down time for the turbo .
Everything here working hard has one of these, keeping it old school.
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kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Who else apart from me bothers to run a turbo down before stopping an engine?

makes me cringe when other folks pull up and just switch off!

we’ve never fitted a replacement turbo,

Depends how hard its been working, if you've idled down and taken the load off by the time you've cruised to a stop its not so bad.
Obviously if its at full load I wouldn't just turn it off.
 

had e nuff

Member
Location
Durham
Turbo gone on my isuzu pickup. Main dealer wanting Just short of 4k to put it right. Told them not to bother.
Phoned a Turbo specialist and apparently they are a unique turbo. 5/6 weeks to get one.
Hoping i can find a 2nd hand one.
 

redsloe

Member
Location
Cornwall
I would think about changing the tractor. You haven't got to stick to a plan.
Years and years ago we had a tractor that had done 6000 hours and it needed tyres. I wanted to change it but was overruled. So new tyres were bought. Then the crankshaft broke. 20 years ago the crank was a grand.
Then the power quad box needed rebuilding, then new brakes (still not sure if the power quad needed doing and the problem was always the brakes)
All in about 12 months and then we changed the tractor.
Sometimes when you start spending, it's difficult to stop!
Get a price, you might be surprised!

AIA is changing in the new year too.
 

BuskhillFarm

Member
Arable Farmer
Reading this thread there is no wonder farming and machinery is in the state it’s in. There is a turbo oil seal going in a tractor that is probably less than half way through its viable working life and people advise to change it!! Others say £2800 for a turbo is small change!! No wonder tractors cost £150k for a average one nowadays!! Save your self £80k and take the turbo to a reconditioners they’ll have it like new and if your selling the fendt at 10,000 hours people will not give a jot if it’s full dealer history or not as they’ll be doing all their own maintence themselves. Sounds like there is a bunch of townsmen working in farming these days!!
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Are you absolutely sure that your trailer brakes are biting quickly enough?

yes, tested every year on a VOSA HGV MOT center and adjusted accordingly. regularly maintained m,modern Stewart trailer on-air / ABS - 7500hrs isn't bad IMO for bakes on a machine doing a lot of higher speed road work
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Everything here working hard has one of these, keeping it old school.
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used to have them on cars back in the past - not sure I would want to mess about with modern tractor electronics fitting one though? Manufacturers should really fit something like it standard but I guess that hits parts sales !

Other than students my guys are pretty mechanically sympathetic re letting engines tick over before shutting down etc
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Reading this thread there is no wonder farming and machinery is in the state it’s in. There is a turbo oil seal going in a tractor that is probably less than half way through its viable working life and people advise to change it!! Others say £2800 for a turbo is small change!! No wonder tractors cost £150k for a average one nowadays!! Save your self £80k and take the turbo to a reconditioners they’ll have it like new and if your selling the fendt at 10,000 hours people will not give a jot if it’s full dealer history or not as they’ll be doing all their own maintence themselves. Sounds like there is a bunch of townsmen working in farming these days!!


I think on complex / modern machines a full and documented dealer service history and updates etc does (and should) have a value vs simply taking someone's word for it that it was done

However, there is certainly money to be saved in sourcing parts or getting stuff reconditioned vs just bending over and paying the full dealers price

Thanks to helpful TFF members I have a few leads to follow on the turbo issue this morning that may make a seemingly expensive repair into something a little more acceptable
 
Had a quick look at the Fendt specs, it's a Deutz common rail engine with a Borg Warner turbo, probably too new, and not common enough yet for the aftermarket suppliers to produce. But if you can find a cartridge or chra? Think is the term, for your application, car ones etc can be found for less than £200
It will still be a boatload cheaper for a genuine borg warner from a turbo supplier than in a fendt box. Fuel pump was leaking on our valtra £2400 in a valtra box,£1100 in a bosch box,£140 refurbished
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
yes, tested every year on a VOSA HGV MOT center and adjusted accordingly. regularly maintained m,modern Stewart trailer on-air / ABS - 7500hrs isn't bad IMO for bakes on a machine doing a lot of higher speed road work

Have you had those Stewart trailers for many hrs though?
 

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