Twin spool wrapper

biggles

Member
Location
derbyshire
Thinking of upgrading the wrapper as I’m getting to old to not be in bed early now! Only wrap about 800 a year so can’t justify a big spend, currently run an old 7515 Kverneland which has been faultless but slow with only one roll. What’s out there in the low price range and what’s best avoided, cheers
 
I run a hs2000, when it’s going well I don’t think there’s a better machine for round bales. When it is being a dog there no worse way to spend your day.
There a one man machine I wouldn’t have mine if I had to explain it to different workers every day… after a few years I no how to sort the problems :LOL:
 

biggles

Member
Location
derbyshire
Combo Baler is out, far to heavy for my wet ground and only have 100hp on the Baler. Do like the simplicity of the 991 high speed but most of my steep ground is a struggle to get any rotation speed without the bale coming off, hence why I’m leaning towards the twin arm wrapper where the bale isn’t spinning, cheers
 

biggles

Member
Location
derbyshire
Also I’ve never used a twin wrapper so have no idea what I’m letting myself in for. It also needs to work of a John Deere 2140 hydraulics if that makes a difference
 

Fendt516profi

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
Combo Baler is out, far to heavy for my wet ground and only have 100hp on the Baler. Do like the simplicity of the 991 high speed but most of my steep ground is a struggle to get any rotation speed without the bale coming off, hence why I’m leaning towards the twin arm wrapper where the bale isn’t spinning, cheers
 

hally

Member
Location
cumbria
Hs 2000 can be fun on steep land aswell. Picking up a heavy bale whilst going downhill can be interesting to say the least. We used to fill the tyres with water to help stability
 

Monty

Member
We have a 7515 here too and I quite like it. You could put a bigger tractor with quicker hydraulics in front of it to speed up the job a bit. We went from 40/42 bales an hour to 50/55 per hour now it's on a 100l/min tractor with powershuttle and it's far more pleasant wrapping in an evening. Surprisingly it's quicker than the satellite wrapper on the combi baler.

There's plenty of other brands of satellite wrappers out there that will wrap just as quick as a mchale. Taarup/kverneland, vicon, goweil, kuhn, tanco etc
 

DrDunc

Member
Location
Dunsyre
Had the same dilemma when the age was beginning to show on my 25 year old mchale 991 (yellow wheels, one of the very first!)

Looked at HS2000's which varied from fairly rough but functional, to "oh my giddy aunt, how did the contractor bugger it so badly and it still works?". If they'd had a board made to support the spool arms when moving between fields they were worth a look, but most had cracked the frame arms at some point.

I considered both the twin spool 991B "high speed", and the McHale orbital. The former, while available second hand, weren't a huge increase in productivity, and uses more plastic than a "true" twin spool machine. The orbital would definitely have improved output, but were difficult to source second hand, and have a reputation of disliking anything but perfect shaped bales..... Something that isn't guaranteed at some farms where I get asked to wrap !!!

Ended up with this shiny toy....

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Kuhn RW 1810, ex demonstrator less money than the price of a basic single spool cable control McHale 991.

Comfortably puts 6 layers of plastic onto 80 bales an hour in a decent field! It's usually behind a k series Deutz with only 80l/min oil pump. Can also do a "3D" wrapping cycle that puts plastic around the circumference and corners of the bale where it's needed most, before conventionally applying 4 layers. However it'll only manage 45 to 50 an hour this way.

Noticed a big improvement in silage quality the first winter. Bales are definitely tighter wrapped, expelling mould growing air. The 3D wrapped ones are even better again, though I don't tend to have the patience at 1 o'clock in the morning to use this feature when I know it'll do near double the speed wrapping "conventionally", especially when it's medium quality suckler cow grass!

It's not without issues: the control box took a bit of learning, and it's needed a tweak of the dealer settings to stop cheap wrap from tearing at the start of the cycle. However now it's set up, my 12 year old lad can work it having been shown the controls once! (Though not yet achieving 80 an hour like his dad, thankfully he still has a thing or two to learn).

If you're wanting a significant increase in wrapping speed, the Kuhn twin spool definitely ticks that box 👍
 

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