Tyres comparable or better than BF Goodrich Mud Terrain.

MX7

Member
Location
cotswolds
I have BF Goodrich Mud Terrain tyres which are ok. The problem is that when they get down to about 3mm of tread they seem to wear unevenly around the true,alternate lugs wearing faster than the lug next to it most peculiar.So I was thinking of trying a comparable make of tyre, suggestions please. Many thanks.
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
When they get down to about 3mm of tread you will find their on-road performance drops off pretty sharpish and they want replacing IMHO. All fun and games in the wet in a pickup but could catch someone out on a sharp turn or if they had to brake in an emergency.
I'd have thought with those knobbly things on road performance would get better.
 

Two Tone

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Mixed Farmer
I’ve loved BF Goodrichs on my LR Discovery. IIRC, they are guaranteed for 50k miles in the USA, but will rarely achieve that in the UK because they are well aged by then and will often start to pull chords through the sidewalls meaning you need to tube them, which makes them last about a year longer.

Trouble is that they don’t make all the sizes I have needed and I’ve used General Grabbers instead. They are a good tyre, but I have had 2 that have suddenly disintegrated on the motorway on my 60 RR Sport, despite being VR’s. They were 8 years old though!

They are also both, but particularly the Grabbers, rather noisy at motorway speeds.


Slightly off topic, I am getting frustrated with the hard ride on my RR Sport and am wondering weather to fit 18“ wheels instead of the 19” that are on it to increase the profile and soften it a bit.
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’ve just been looking at some reviews and they like the Hankooks a lot too (2nd best). But they say the Avon is the best.

Remember having a new Defender that came home on Avon Rangemasters, that were very good.
 
“Each bald or defective tyre carries a fine of up to £2,500 and three penalty points.
Although the tread depth of 1.6mm is the legal minimum many experts warn that you should replace your tyres once the tread is below 3mm - this is because stopping distances increase dramatically for car below this tread depth.”

“Just saying “ - 3mm is really about ready for changing....
 

snarling bee

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Just had some Toyos put on my Ranger. Far Far better than the BFGs and Bridgestones that I have had before, especially on the road. My 'keeper has some on her pickup and they seem to last well enough.
 

Paddington

Member
Location
Soggy Shropshire
I’ve loved BF Goodrichs on my LR Discovery. IIRC, they are guaranteed for 50k miles in the USA, but will rarely achieve that in the UK because they are well aged by then and will often start to pull chords through the sidewalls meaning you need to tube them, which makes them last about a year longer.

Trouble is that they don’t make all the sizes I have needed and I’ve used General Grabbers instead. They are a good tyre, but I have had 2 that have suddenly disintegrated on the motorway on my 60 RR Sport, despite being VR’s. They were 8 years old though!

They are also both, but particularly the Grabbers, rather noisy at motorway speeds.


Slightly off topic, I am getting frustrated with the hard ride on my RR Sport and am wondering weather to fit 18“ wheels instead of the 19” that are on it to increase the profile and soften it a bit.
Don't think I've ever been offered a mileage warranty on tyres, had a set of Grabbers which I went through in a year (20K) but never thought to try and claim any money back.
 
Just had some Toyos put on my Ranger. Far Far better than the BFGs and Bridgestones that I have had before, especially on the road. My 'keeper has some on her pickup and they seem to last well enough.
Toyo tyres, in my experience, stick like wet proverbial to a blanket- I had them on my Scoob and it was a rocket. They don't quite last as long as some of the competition but they do grip very well, wet or dry.
 
I'd have thought with those knobbly things on road performance would get better.
This is a common belief. As tyres wear out, surely they are getting closer and closer to what a slick tyre looks like and we know how good they are on race cars (in the dry at least).

Only it's not the tyre carcass itself that is providing the grip on tyres with tread- it's the tread blocks. When they are new, the tread blocks are tall and flex substantially, offering a lot of adhesion to the road. As they wear down significantly, there is less leverage and they can't flex as much- cut all the bristles off your toothbrush at half depth and see how gentle it is?

This is why grip decreases as tread depth decreases.

Those BFG tyres have huge treads when new- they grip like stink off road and will get you further than General grabbers because the treads are a different shape. But as they wear, they are very thick treads and I don't think they have the flexibility of other tyres and certainly as they wear down the tread becomes a lovely flat piece of rubber on the road which IME, offers fudge all adhesion in the wet...
 

ricky_rascal

Member
Location
N. Yorks
Slightly off topic, I am getting frustrated with the hard ride on my RR Sport and am wondering weather to fit 18“ wheels instead of the 19” that are on it to increase the profile and soften it a bit.
The increase in profile will soften the ride a little. Be more noticeable over potholes and the like. Make sure the smaller wheel will fit over the brakes - front being the larger as a rule.
 
This is a common belief. As tyres wear out, surely they are getting closer and closer to what a slick tyre looks like and we know how good they are on race cars (in the dry at least).

Only it's not the tyre carcass itself that is providing the grip on tyres with tread- it's the tread blocks. When they are new, the tread blocks are tall and flex substantially, offering a lot of adhesion to the road. As they wear down significantly, there is less leverage and they can't flex as much- cut all the bristles off your toothbrush at half depth and see how gentle it is?

This is why grip decreases as tread depth decreases.

Those BFG tyres have huge treads when new- they grip like stink off road and will get you further than General grabbers because the treads are a different shape. But as they wear, they are very thick treads and I don't think they have the flexibility of other tyres and certainly as they wear down the tread becomes a lovely flat piece of rubber on the road which IME, offers fudge all adhesion in the wet...
The compound in slicks is completely different to a regular public road going tyre .
You don’t get little balls of soft rubber coming off road tyres.
 

MX7

Member
Location
cotswolds
Just had some Toyos put on my Ranger. Far Far better than the BFGs and Bridgestones that I have had before, especially on the road. My 'keeper has some on her pickup and they seem to last well enough.
Which type of Toyo tyre, are they the “Open Country M/T? Thanks.
 

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