Uk in forty years time

Surgery

Member
Location
Oxford
Being born early 70's you remember that life seemed so different looking back.

The countries jam packed with people and traffic now what's it going to be like in forty years time?
 

uztrac

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
fakenham-norfolk
It could well be in a right muddle,as severe overcrowding takes its toll. It might have a population of around 100 million if current trends continue. The possibility of internal strife will always be there.However building of houses and roads will decimate our beloved countryside,and agriculture might well have been nationalised,now there's a thought ?
 

Wastexprt

Member
BASIS
By 2047 the UN is predicting that for the first time people in old age will outnumber children (I don't know their definition of either I'm afraid). So will we be an aging population that will just fizzle out??
 

corkman2013

Member
Location
co.cork
Perhaps Japan today could provide a picture of UK in the future, ageing population. Reasonably healthy, uncomfortable with stranger's, falling birthrate, quite well to do. Very good/competitive at a small number of industries, unlikely to be able to supply all food basics internally. A lot of the best land in the south East needed for building and roads.
The real question is maybe uk in 10 years,
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
The south east of England may well become just urban sprawl ...completely changed in my lifetime .More changes in my little village than the previous 1500 years ...!!

I doubt it. They're all leaving the southeast for a better lifestyle in the southwest. The attraction of living around here used to be that it was easy to get into London for work but now, thanks to southern rail, they'd be lucky to get in more that two days a week.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Being born early 70's you remember that life seemed so different looking back.

The countries jam packed with people and traffic now what's it going to be like in forty years time?

Really?
Maybe you should have been born in 1900 and gone through two world wars where our people and the people of Europe and elsewhere were killed like flies, in the thousands daily in extreme violence. The poverty and deprivation. The slums. The food rationing. Only a few short years before the 1970's where I remember the constant strikes and industrial unrest which stifled the economic recovery. The extreme inflation where the Pound in your pocket bought less on a daily basis.

The thing is, you were young and innocent during the 70's and 80's and therefore idealise those times. At least you have been spared, so far, from a major domestic war.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Perhaps Japan today could provide a picture of UK in the future, ageing population. Reasonably healthy, uncomfortable with stranger's, falling birthrate, quite well to do. Very good/competitive at a small number of industries, unlikely to be able to supply all food basics internally. A lot of the best land in the south East needed for building and roads.
The real question is maybe uk in 10 years,
Sums up me and my farm very well.
 

tje

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
North Hampshire
Ok my part of the south east (North Hampshire ,Thames Valley ) the transport links maybe slightly better , Southern rail is a disgrace but South western do provide a decent service ...

But there is plenty of local jobs to provide employment for a rapidly growing population hence the explosion of building around here .(Houses and roads etc ) .

The problem with south west is cheap housing , but fewer employment opportunies so people can end up spending their weekends in the west country /wales //then working around here during the week ..





I doubt it. They're all leaving the southeast for a better lifestyle in the southwest. The attraction of living around here used to be that it was easy to get into London for work but now, thanks to southern rail, they'd be lucky to get in more that two days a week.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Perhaps Japan today could provide a picture of UK in the future, ageing population. Reasonably healthy, uncomfortable with stranger's, falling birthrate, quite well to do. Very good/competitive at a small number of industries, unlikely to be able to supply all food basics internally. A lot of the best land in the south East needed for building and roads.
The real question is maybe uk in 10 years,
Interesting, I've spent a lot of time in Japan and I think you are more or less right. But Japan also has one huge advantage, this being that it has / is a very homogenous and therefore united society. Sadly, we have been 'enriched' by mass immigration and seen our country regionalised, very much at the demand and with the encouragement of the EU (divide and rule being the maxim of the day for them). All this leading to a society and country that is certainly much less united that it was before.

Japan also has an almost entirely internalised national debt, an advantage in one way - currency fluctuations don't affect it - and a disadvantage in another, since other countries have less interest in supporting your currency at times of need.
 
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Surgery

Member
Location
Oxford
Really?
Maybe you should have been born in 1900 and gone through two world wars where our people and the people of Europe and elsewhere were killed like flies, in the thousands daily in extreme violence. The poverty and deprivation. The slums. The food rationing. Only a few short years before the 1970's where I remember the constant strikes and industrial unrest which stifled the economic recovery. The extreme inflation where the Pound in your pocket bought less on a daily basis.

The thing is, you were young and innocent during the 70's and 80's and therefore idealise those times. At least you have been spared, so far, from a major domestic war.
I quite agree that being younger things seem different but there were not the cars on the roads nor houses flying up everywhere , things may not have changed where you are to the same extreme as here.

Also back in the seventies large amounts of money were made on our farm to the point it bought a lot of land , something which will never be done again.

On the matter of being about in two world wars there were huge sacrifices made across the world to which we are all greatful for , then again I dare say kids these days could not even tell you what prime ministers were in place or what d-day was.

I personally had grandparents fight in both wars and I have travelled a few times to both epicentres of the fighting to pay my respects to all.
 

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