Uk in forty years time

[icanshootwell]

The best and basically only source of common sense in this thread I have read.

So far it has all been doom and gloom and FFS an anti muslim complaint.

So what lots of land will have houses on it? Who gives a monkeys?

The country that is now great Britain is not, never has been and never will be one of a huge homogenous white Briton mass. Britain has been a way station for migration and trade for hundreds of years. And before that it was invaded or expanded for thousands of years. We are a mixture of races here.

In the next 50 years my children will witness the human race throw off the bonds that the carbon age forced upon us. Global prosperity will increase. Energy will become cheaper and available to all. Whether from thorium or fusion or renewables, energy and the spread of information ideas will spread and our ability to innovate as a race will accelerate tenfold.

It will be a brave new world and population growth will slow and eventually stall when people realise you dont need to have 20 kids to ensure 2 survive.

The only people who have 20 kids, are the ones who benefit financially, more kids=more money your working parents have 2 or 3, they cant afford any more.

 

[Hilly]

Water for the 100,000000 will be worth more than milk, oh it is already in some parts.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

We reap what we sow. The Crusaders and the British Empire taught people the world over that the correct way was to invade, impose 'culture' and alien religion and then rule their world as our own with no consideration or tolerance of existing religions or customs.

They brought disease,destruction, depression and death to most indigenous or recently settled cultures.

 

[hindmaist]

They brought disease,destruction, depression and death to most indigenous or recently settled cultures.

Aye,but if they hadn't,someone else would have.So that's OK then.

 

[Danllan]

The country that is now great Britain is not, never has been and never will be one of a huge homogenous white Briton mass. Britain has been a way station for migration and trade for hundreds of years. And before that it was invaded or expanded for thousands of years. We are a mixture of races here...

Well that's a crock from start to finish, it reads as if you have just had a lecture from - and believed - the near moronic shadow Foreign Secretary, Emily Thornberry, which was intended to make one think there is no such thing as Britishness, or the British, and that we have no (pre)historical continuity as a people - something she dearly wants to be in the minds of all. Do your homework and check out the DNA studies, then look at subsequent papers published. We know that the vast majority of white British people have their origins in these islands going back for thousands of years.

Certainly there are genetic contributions / influences from Rome, the Angles etc., the Norse and the Normans (Norse anyway, really), but the people are overwhelmingly the same as they always were. What changed was the culture in a given area and later across most of these islands, the dominant one being, on several occasions, that of a minority of well armed and tactically superior invaders. This is why here in West Wales we still have a native British language, whereas in e.g. Essex the modern English language is unquestionably supreme - but still has a hell of a lot more Welsh in it than most people realise.

We now know there is no 'Celtic' race per se, not genetically, since there is as great a difference and similarity between someone from Ceredigion and Pen Llyn as there is between them and someone from the Cambridge fens. Instead we now recognise that the 'Celtic' race is, and was, a thing of Cultural creation, recognising the cultural divide between areas where later dominant cultures came out on top and where the older ones persisted. Differences yes, in some ways too many, but the same people.

 

[Funny Farmer]

good for the sheep trade

Not so good if you're a sheep!

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

What exactly is your complaint with various areas of the UK being populated mostly by various people? Is there a law in this country which says a certain percentage of the populace must be X or Y? Is there a law in any country which specifies that?

You are aware that various parts of Brittany are home to a large number of Britons who for whatever reason club together and live amongst themselves so it is not a one way phenomenon.

I have no issue, just making a observation. 50 years ago Bradford was a very British city based on the wool trade. Now it is majority Asian. I have no issue with that but the culture had changed as a result.

 

[Surgery]

I have no issue, just making a observation. 50 years ago Bradford was a very British city based on the wool trade. Now it is majority Asian. I have no issue with that but the culture had changed as a result.

They have all left Bradford for Brittany

 

[BobGreen]

@Forage Trader might have decided on his new truck
@Speedstar might have a forage wagon @james ds might have bought a self propelled

 

[Old Boar]

40 years ago none of us would have dreamed of spending an evening chatting to people on a computer. Computers were those things that had their own room in the University with climate control and worried looking people.
We would not have dreamed of being able to make a phone call while walking in the street (some of us in some areas still dream of that!). Children having a phone would have seemed odd and unnecessary, and the thought of combining a camera and a phone would have made us laugh!
Technology has moved on so fast, even in the last 10 years. I cannot imagine in 40 more years how it would have moved, and in what direction. Maybe we wont have to type (or dictate) and our thought processes will appear on a screen. I hope not - not that I will be here, but no one would be able to follow my train of thinking!

 

[Bury the Trash]

not that I will be here

well, you never know.might be lucky,a lot of people might be living to 120 then.

 

[Old Boar]

Is that with VAT?

 

[Forever Fendt]

I bet Ive travelled more than you.

you remind me of someone

 

[glasshouse]

We might be farming on mars by then

 

[Bury the Trash]

Is that with VAT?

Quite likely There will be huge numbers of very old people around by then. 100 and plus could be quite common......

 

[Danllan]

I have no issue, just making a observation. 50 years ago Bradford was a very British city based on the wool trade. Now it is majority Asian. I have no issue with that but the culture had changed as a result.

That may be so, although I do find it surprising bearing in mind your usual patriotic angle.

I am not afraid, embarrassed or ashamed to write that I think the fact that a British city becoming predominantly non-British, any British city, is not a good thing. To me it beggars belief that as a native Briton I am now an 'ethnic minority' if I visit my own capital city. This doesn't mean I dislike, hate or look down on foreigners or other races.

It does mean that I think we have done a hell of a good job in this country from Magna Carta onwards in many, in fact in most ways, and that when I look at the results of mass immigration and the resulting 'ghettoes' I see nothing that has added to our progress or our cohesiveness as a nation.

If mass immigration has so 'enriched' our country, as its apologists claim; why do we not seek further enrichment, in fact total 'enrichment' and replace the native people across the whole place, and why are the native people not clamouring for that to happen?

In what other country can we find people who will not speak against the relative diminution of their own people ?

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Aye,but if they hadn't,someone else would have.So that's OK then.

Probably the French.....

 

[Funny Farmer]

I'm all for immigration or should I say emigration because that's where my future lies - one thing I can say with certainty though is that I'll be the one doing the fitting in wherever I end up!

 

[bluegreen]

In 40 years there will be constant unbroken blue skies, no clouds, no rain. Natural springs will be prevalent and unpolluted rivers and streams in abundance. Land masses will have altered out of all recognition in a totally changed climate! Food will be abundant for all, No death and disease, No pharmaceutical drugs, No ageing, everyone will appear to be around 25 years old. No Children, No wars, No politicians, No police, No Lawyers, No authority, No money, No need! No tears, No misery, Just Joy and harmony!
No intensive farming! Everything grown local and picked when ripe, and no need to replant either as plants will sustain themselves. No flies, No Bees, Not necessary as plants will be self pollinating. New species of animals, birds and other life forms.
A totally changed atmosphere with Hydrogen having taken over from Oxygen, so no oxidation. All in all a radically different world to the dying one we are all currently living on! As for humans and everything else, read the Bible!

And No more far fetched, wishful thinking postings on how life will be in 40years on the farming forum

Mind you, Brexit, Leicester City, Trump, Le Penn? unexpected things are happening

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

That may be so, although I do find it surprising bearing in mind your usual patriotic angle.

I am not afraid, embarrassed or ashamed to write that I think the fact that a British city becoming predominantly non-British, any British city, is not a good thing. To me it beggars belief that as a native Briton I am now an 'ethnic minority' if I visit my own capital city. This doesn't mean I dislike, hate or look down on foreigners or other races.

It does mean that I think we have done a hell of a good job in this country from Magna Carta onwards in many, in fact in most ways, and that when I look at the results of mass immigration and the resulting 'ghettoes' I see nothing that has added to our progress or our cohesiveness as a nation.

If mass immigration has so 'enriched' our country, as its apologists claim; why do we not seek further enrichment, in fact total 'enrichment' and replace the native people across the whole place, and why are the native people not clamouring for that to happen?

In what other country can we find people who will not speak against the relative diminution of their own people ?

I can understand people accumulating in areas of shared culture and so kind don't object to it. What I DO object to is them not fully adopting British laws. IMHO there is no space in the UK for sharia law or "honour" killings.