holywell farmer
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seem to be chopping and changing, 1 thing seems clear from ugove poll Corbyn had 8 percent lead for a week and know it's 1 percent
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holywell farmer
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Anyone care to comment?
holywell farmer
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Well next election could be any time within next 2 years maybe
wanton dwarf
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I don't think it is correct to give out your information freely and do not understand the motives of those happily clicking away making their own lives redundant.
As soon as you are boxed and known how you will jump your vote can be avoided.
Same in business. Why give out harvest information which is then used against you as a producer to justify lowering the price ? To add insult to injury they don't even pay you for the privilage.
I often see those bragging in Farmers Weekly about record crops and think they are destroying their own industry by destroying their market price.
As soon as you are boxed and known how you will jump your vote can be avoided.
Same in business. Why give out harvest information which is then used against you as a producer to justify lowering the price ? To add insult to injury they don't even pay you for the privilage.
I often see those bragging in Farmers Weekly about record crops and think they are destroying their own industry by destroying their market price.
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I don't think that political, as opposed to subjective, polls are much use unless there is an election imminent and people think their vote / allegiance might achieve something. Add to this the awful record of the vast majority of pollsters and their, meaning the poll's, 'reliability' becomes something of a joke.
JC did not bring votes to Labour in the last General Election, Momentum did. It carried out a very effective campaign, its truths and its lies were believed by many, and it managed to overcome a fair amount of student apathy - even twice for some students...
But, JC has since backtracked on his commitment to students regarding their debts; the Conservatives and Liberals (ha!) have not said a great deal about this, they will be holding it for the next election. I don't think that the youth vote will swing as a block to the Tories, or the Lib's for that matter, but I do think they may rediscover their natural apathy, and that could make a significant difference to an election result.
JC did not bring votes to Labour in the last General Election, Momentum did. It carried out a very effective campaign, its truths and its lies were believed by many, and it managed to overcome a fair amount of student apathy - even twice for some students...
But, JC has since backtracked on his commitment to students regarding their debts; the Conservatives and Liberals (ha!) have not said a great deal about this, they will be holding it for the next election. I don't think that the youth vote will swing as a block to the Tories, or the Lib's for that matter, but I do think they may rediscover their natural apathy, and that could make a significant difference to an election result.
holywell farmer
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I personally think labour could lose seats at next election if Corbyn has meltdown
Plus as everybody knows Labour members, leftists, and greens "all always lie"
So what's the point in asking any of those folks anything in an opinion poll
wanton dwarf
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Plus as everybody knows Labour members, leftists, and greens "all always lie"
So what's the point in asking any of those folks anything in an opinion poll
We've been through a period where the Left had killed 100,000s based on a dossier that was a LIE.
1,000,000s have been left homeless and further countries have been destroyed as the same LIE has propergated throughout North Africa.
The same dogmatic corrupt evil mind set led to 1,000s of young white girls being raped by Pakistani gangs for decades whilst the Liberal Left did their best to HIDE the evidence.
Recently the same evil Left wing shites stated the white girls should "Shut up in the interests of diversity".
And there are MANY more instancies of the Liberal Left doing thier worst against native populations. I have no qualms in pointing out how much the Left are sick in the head.
Given the opportunity the same mentally ill Left will quite happily castigate the extreme right when their hands are soaked in the misery and death of millions. I dearly hope they rot in hell.
What is the point in asking a bunch of Left wing activists what their "opinion" is when they blatantly don't know what a human being is.
holywell farmer
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Labour being taken over by the extreme leftiesPlus as everybody knows Labour members, leftists, and greens "all always lie"
So what's the point in asking any of those folks anything in an opinion poll
holywell farmer
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Never liked that slim ball Simon Hughes
holywell farmer
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Does anyone think labour could keep big lead in the polls
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Depends if Conservatives stop acting like a bunch of spoilt 5 yr olds and get their sh!t together or argue to the point the are all out of a job
holywell farmer
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I think labour heading for fall, people find out Corbyn real plan soon
Walterp
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I think you ought to get out more.
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Long Version: the Lib Dems flew the Remain flag at the last election, it was a bad strategy and got them nowhere.
The Conservatives tried to keep the election focused on Brexit. It was a bad strategy and they lost their majority.
What was Labour’s strategy at the last election? To move the debate away from Brexit and onto other issues, it was a very successful strategy. The Labour party are split with London Remainers and the old industrial base of Brexiters. They lost this election but have started to get their old base back with Corbyn at the helm.
Why mess up the next election for a Brexit process they are not in power to control?
Corbyn's noncommittal approach on Brexit shows his eyes are on the prize of the next election and he is following in the path of his successful election strategy.
So you really do need to widen your perspective (and get out more).
[Précis courtesy of 'Sound of the Suburbs']
The Conservatives tried to keep the election focused on Brexit. It was a bad strategy and they lost their majority.
What was Labour’s strategy at the last election? To move the debate away from Brexit and onto other issues, it was a very successful strategy. The Labour party are split with London Remainers and the old industrial base of Brexiters. They lost this election but have started to get their old base back with Corbyn at the helm.
Why mess up the next election for a Brexit process they are not in power to control?
Corbyn's noncommittal approach on Brexit shows his eyes are on the prize of the next election and he is following in the path of his successful election strategy.
So you really do need to widen your perspective (and get out more).
[Précis courtesy of 'Sound of the Suburbs']
RobFZS
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Corbyn's noncommittal approach to brexit is because he hasn't got a clue what to do, this is quite clear from the terminology he uses, especially when he say's you have to be part of the Eu to be part of the single market, one day someone is going to say, what about Norway?!
I suggest you pay attention more Walter to what he say's, then living it up on the waterside in Tenby or whatever you do with your busy lifestyle you portray
I suggest you pay attention more Walter to what he say's, then living it up on the waterside in Tenby or whatever you do with your busy lifestyle you portray
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holywell farmer
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That's my view ok
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I think we know Corbyn's real plan and I don't like it one bit, as I would assume most of the folk on this site don't. But us country folk are almost certainly not representative of the of the electorate nowadays. He has sold a dream of a radical labour government like the Brexiteers sold the dream of a life outside the EU. Plenty of people are still prepared to buy into these dreams on the flimsiest of evidence.