UKCA markings

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
You don’t get it! The uk won’t recognise CE mark! Also Europe won’t let the uk use CE! So it’s a lose lose

Europe would still let us use it for stuff we manufacture, if we went through their hoops, but the electorate have chosen not to be beholden to them and for CE to not be our standard. Plenty of countries have companies that manufacture to CE standards, and there will be some in the UK going forward, we just won’t be able to accept those items as being good enough.

Why this is a surprise to anyone though, I don’t understand. We voted to get rid of the standards as ours.
 

Exfarmer

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Bury St Edmunds
It’s the EU not allowing it not the Uk!
You can kinda see their cunning plan.
It’s on everything from a watch battery to , well everything. This is one of thousand a of “small “ details Boris needs to work out
You are wrong. The CE mark demonstrates the product matches a whole raft of requirements that the EU sees fit to impose. Most of these are for the protection of the consumer although some reflect environmental concerns.
Many countries require these standards for the sale of goods into their market, even though they are not part of the EU, these include Norway Switzerland , many of the baltic states, Turkey and several others
 

thesilentone

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
You don’t get it! The uk won’t recognise CE mark! Also Europe won’t let the uk use CE! So it’s a lose lose


If we are to sell goods to the EU, then we will need to comply with the conditions the CE mark indicates. The UK had BS standards (and still has) then BS EN which implies that the goods meet European standards, however part of our future agreement will include the use of the CE mark (even though the goods are made outside the EU). UKCA is for goods sold ONLY in the UK, post Brexit - no deal, as initially (until we have one) we are no longer members ..........
 
If we are to sell goods to the EU, then we will need to comply with the conditions the CE mark indicates. The UK had BS standards (and still has) then BS EN which implies that the goods meet European standards, however part of our future agreement will include the use of the CE mark (even though the goods are made outside the EU). UKCA is for goods sold ONLY in the UK, post Brexit - no deal, as initially (until we have one) we are no longer members ..........
Makes complete sense. Much as goods made in China are stamped with CE and whatever other raft of international standards they must meet to be sold in that jurisdiction. They also have their own domestic standard.

What’s all the fuss about again?
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
So, just remember to get them stickers on those lambs before you load them :)
Everything that requires a health and safety assurance that it. Stuff that is fabricated and manufactured. Stuff that is grown has its own little schemes don't you know.
It will be interesting to see whether Boris can ensure the continued viability of sheep farming through this though. No matter what quality assurance is met, if the price isn't right at the far end, it spells trouble.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
Makes complete sense. Much as goods made in China are stamped with CE and whatever other raft of international standards they must meet to be sold in that jurisdiction. They also have their own domestic standard.

What’s all the fuss about again?

The fuss is that UKCA is a new standard and a new marking, which means extra costs for companies wanting to sell their goods here.

Guess who’s going to be paying that extra cost?
 
The fuss is that UKCA is a new standard and a new marking, which means extra costs for companies wanting to sell their goods here.

Guess who’s going to be paying that extra cost?
It’s the way of the world at the moment - dystopian - we all want to fragment ourselves into fiefdoms. Hey ho. Just got to roll with it now.

From a pragmatic perspective, it would make sense to simply align/lock-step UKCA (if that’s what it’s going to be called) to existing EN/CE and be done with it.

Much as Aussie and NZ do with their standards.
 

Highland Mule

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Livestock Farmer
From a pragmatic perspective, it would make sense to simply align/lock-step UKCA (if that’s what it’s going to be called) to existing EN/CE and be done with it.

It would be, but the UK public voted to cut all such ties with the EU and to not be dictated to by them. Plenty on here would confirm that they fully understood such implications and were happy to have the additional costs on them, to have unrestrained gold plating added by UK personnel and to have a much less sure supply of medical radioisotopes going forward. All that was clear before the vote, and all 17million-odd people fully understood it before they made their decision to disadvantage us medically, financially and culturally.
 

Muck Spreader

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Livestock Farmer
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Limousin
It’s the way of the world at the moment - dystopian - we all want to fragment ourselves into fiefdoms. Hey ho. Just got to roll with it now.

From a pragmatic perspective, it would make sense to simply align/lock-step UKCA (if that’s what it’s going to be called) to existing EN/CE and be done with it.

Much as Aussie and NZ do with their standards.

Don't forget they will also have to comply with body like ETL for the US market. Tons of paperwork and costs to look forward to.
 

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