Umbilical slurry kit

[dgjeynes]

Looking into getting our own kit as currently use contractor or borrow his kit and do it our self but not always available when we need it. So looking at getting our own. We need 1000m of pipe will get 400m of 5 inch the rest 4. What pipe do we go with? I’ve always used oroflex and liked it, what reeler to go with would like it all on one reeler probably on the front. And what pump only ever used a doda hd35. I know we can get a grant for the pump and possibly reeler with abit of pipe. Already have a 7.5m storth dribble bar on our tanker which I’ll make fit the tractor with a swing arm. And finally what couplings? Contractor has Bauer but I like the idea of storz

 

[ForkieX30]

We were all Spreadwise stuff, their 5 pipe reeler is great, there's loads of space behind the tractor to get at it, other models can be a tight squeeze.
Bauer SX1000 pumps were fine if they were maintained properly, but if you're only doing your own that shouldn't be an issue.
Had several types of pipe, I think Angus was the newest but we didn't have any specific problems with any of them except the really old ones which were kept as spares and hardly ever used. Just remember to keep the pressure moderate, you shouldn't need more than 700 pto rpm at most with only 1000m.
All Bauer couplings, individual ones could be a bit tight or loose but we managed fine, if they're too loose to seal just pop a bit of cut-off pipe under the ring. I've never used Storth or similar, how would you open them if there's still pressure in the pipe? With a Bauer you can just put some rope around the handle and pull it open from a safe dstance.
Why are you considering 5 inch pipe? I hated the things, they were heavy and awkward and pointless. Thankfully the boss did away with the them and we used all 4 inch for the next 10 years.
Regardless of what else you get I definitely recommend a Spreadwise reeler, I don't know how people manage with the ones where all the drums are welded together and you have to faff around tying up every pipe, the job is hard enough as it is.
Good hunting anyway.

 

[deleted user 837354]

If it's only for your own use don't go mad with the spec of everything. Wider pipe is heavier and more expensive per metre and the fittings and X and Y and Z will be the more and more posh you go. It's only putting out a bit of muck at the end of the day so not really making you any money, just saving it. Don't go mad on the spec of the pump if you're only doing your own, too. It will still be far faster than the tanker.

I got on fine with individual reelers but for the Jebus's sake do not buy a trailed one. Have it on the A frame like most sane people.

 

[Beef farmer]

If it's only for your own use don't go mad with the spec of everything. Wider pipe is heavier and more expensive per metre and the fittings and X and Y and Z will be the more and more posh you go. It's only putting out a bit of muck at the end of the day so not really making you any money, just saving it. Don't go mad on the spec of the pump if you're only doing your own, too. It will still be far faster than the tanker.

I got on fine with individual reelers but for the Jebus's sake do not buy a trailed one. Have it on the A frame like most sane people.

If your doing it yourself, buy the biggest pipe you can afford and do it quicker!
6 and 5 here. Wouldn't dream of 4.

 

[mf7480]

With the bigger pipe all the extra capacity is FOC after the initial investment. I’d say it’s well worth it

 

[JohnnyF]

The more 5” you have the better you’ll be. You’ll have less wear on your pump less pressure in the system causing wear and drinking diesel etc.

Figure out what will be static 99% of the time. For example of your 1000 meters if 600 of that is tracks get 600 meters of 5 then consider the 4 to drag round in the field, or go 5 all the way…! You may wince at the price to start with but you more than make up for it in reduced wear reduced diesel and increased output. Speak with the guys at Spreadwise they will see you right!

 

[dgjeynes]

400m of 5 inch is ample for us will drag it in the 4 closest fields to the lagoon then 4 is just easier to handle for the rest, plus I’m only dragging it with 125hp and we are up and down hill so 4 pulls easier. Reeler wise I want it on the front not sure what can fit 1000m doesn’t need to drop off

 

[PI Stsker]

400m of 5 inch is ample for us will drag it in the 4 closest fields to the lagoon then 4 is just easier to handle for the rest, plus I’m only dragging it with 125hp and we are up and down hill so 4 pulls easier. Reeler wise I want it on the front not sure what can fit 1000m doesn’t need to drop off

That’s fair enough, 4” still has a place especially on farmers own systems or where they don’t want to pump much more than 1000 meters on one pump.

As above speak with Spreadwise, we have a front random wrap reeler off them, (to be fair we’ve had a fair bit off them over the last few years, I wouldn’t ring anyone else now, the rep I deal with is great) it holds 1000m of 4” but they do a bigger one that will hold 1200mtr of 5” which is heavier duty I’m told.
You’d want the bigger one as 5” takes up allot more room than the 4 does and you have some room for manoeuvres then if you can’t reel it up very tight or want to get some more pipe in the future.

Get storz fittings, there unisex so it dosnt matter which way you reel up, also much stronger than Bauers.

Pumps are one of them, get what one you prefer, they all break / wear out.. We had a doda that gave us no end of trouble had so many new parts it was like triggers broom. Swapped to a Bauer SX1000 and touch wood it’s been twice the machine, better output, easier driven and chops up any crust that gets slurped up better, much more metal in it too..!

It’s easy to get carried away with umbilical, if your only doing your own 3/4000 cube a year you really need to pull the reins back as it gets expensive quickly.

 

[JohnnyF]

With the bigger pipe all the extra capacity is FOC after the initial investment. I’d say it’s well worth it

I seem to remember you saying on another thread you ran a Ferrari pump from Spreadwise with a mix of 6” and 5”? How do you rate it reliability and output wise..?

I’m looking for a pump to transfer Digestate at one lagoon we haven’t got HGV access to and begrudge paying top dollar for a Bauer or doda for something that’s going to sit and do not allot 99% of the time.

 

[mf7480]

I seem to remember you saying on another thread you ran a Ferrari pump from Spreadwise with a mix of 6” and 5”? How do you rate it reliability and output wise..?

I’m looking for a pump to transfer Digestate at one lagoon we haven’t got HGV access to and begrudge paying top dollar for a Bauer or doda for something that’s going to sit and do not allot 99% of the time.

Going great, done around 35k cube now in 15 months so not massive numbers compared to a contractor but enough to prove the reliability of the kit. Haven't touched the pump yet and all the slurry has been sand based.