Umbilical slurry

[Jdunn55]

Doing some budgets for next year and am looking at doing more umbilical next year where possible and just wondering what to budget?

My lagoon holds 700,000 gallons ish
I want to spread about 5,000 gallons/acre in the spring (February ish)
Assuming my pit is full that's enough for 140 acres

There's 2 blocks ofland i want to spread on, the first is 47 acres split over 11 fields
The second is 36 acres over 4 fields

How much do you think roughly it would cost me to spread each time?

 

[davidroberts30]

How far from lagoon to furthest point?flat or hilly

 

[Jdunn55]

How far from lagoon to furthest point?flat or hilly

Gradual Hill and 3000 foot on both blocks

 

[Milkcow365]

Doing some budgets for next year and am looking at doing more umbilical next year where possible and just wondering what to budget?

My lagoon holds 700,000 gallons ish
I want to spread about 5,000 gallons/acre in the spring (February ish)
Assuming my pit is full that's enough for 140 acres

There's 2 blocks ofland i want to spread on, the first is 47 acres split over 11 fields
The second is 36 acres over 4 fields

How much do you think roughly it would cost me to spread each time?

47 acre in 11 fields wow funny how all parts of the country are different

 

[Milkcow365]

Will setting up not kill it cost wise ?

 

[Jdunn55]

47 acre in 11 fields wow funny how all parts of the country are different

Total farmed area is 210 acres over 52 fields!

 

[Jdunn55]

Will setting up not kill it cost wise ?

That's kind of what I'm figuring out
I did my 2 biggest fields this spring and spread 5000 gallon over 30 acres and that cam to £1700

 

[davidroberts30]

That's kind of what I'm figuring out
I did my 2 biggest fields this spring and spread 5000 gallon over 30 acres and that cam to £1700

depends on the lye of the land really
i got a few smaller fields here and @mtx.jag has to weave his way through with pipe when setting out
then he starts at furthest part and works back dropping a pipe off as required

 

[deleted user 837354]

For very small areas it might be worth tankering them instead at a load an acre?

Or you find a contractor who has a spare man who can do a lot of reeling out and in whilst they are pumping?

 

[frederick]

So just over 3000 cube. Think a local outfit is spreading at £2 cube. So about 6-7 grand.

You want an outfit with a remote pump where the second man can spend all his time setting up the pipe so the dribble bar doesn't stop.

 

[dinderleat]

A Good man on the umbilical kit will shift sh!t cheaper and quicker than any tanker

 

[bigw]

Will it not depend on your farm layout @Jdunn55 as there will be a lot of faffing about with pipes in small fields. 2 or 3 tankers going can shift a lot of stuff if close at hand

 

[deleted user 837354]

Do the bulk of it with umbilical, perhaps the bigger/easier fields or blocks and then get x2-3 guys with tankers for the remainder. 4 or 5 acre fields, put on a tanker load an acre and call it a good job.

Nothing cheap in this world but you'll get better grass growth and you'll be saving big money on fertiliser.

 

[Wesley]

A Good man on the umbilical kit will shift sh!t cheaper and quicker than any tanker

Not necessarily. Field sizes, layout & accessibility make a big difference to the cost of pumping

 

[Wesley]

So just over 3000 cube. Think a local outfit is spreading at £2 cube. So about 6-7 grand.

You want an outfit with a remote pump where the second man can spend all his time setting up the pipe so the dribble bar doesn't stop.

We’re on 1.15/cube, then hourly rate for setting/packing up & a different hourly rate for shifting pipes. Engine driven/remote pump so second man is moving pipes while the other is spreading.

 

[Nathan818]

Am I the only one who thinks 5000 gallon/acre is too heavy a dose, unless your slurry is extremely thin? We always limited ourselves to 3500 gallon/acre of relatively thick drystock slurry and that was with a trailing shoe. Any time we get the umbilical in with a dribble bar to put on that much we find the slurry can form a mat over the grass and kill out lines of grass. Interested to hear what other rates people are working at.

 

[sidjon]

Am I the only one who thinks 5000 gallon/acre is too heavy a dose, unless your slurry is extremely thin? We always limited ourselves to 3500 gallon/acre of relatively thick drystock slurry and that was with a trailing shoe. Any time we get the umbilical in with a dribble bar to put on that much we find the slurry can form a mat over the grass and kill out lines of grass. Interested to hear what other rates people are working at.

Am not putting more than 2000 gallons a application, paddocks maybe done after each grazing up to 10 time a year ( dirty water mostly)

 

[Wesley]

Am I the only one who thinks 5000 gallon/acre is too heavy a dose, unless your slurry is extremely thin? We always limited ourselves to 3500 gallon/acre of relatively thick drystock slurry and that was with a trailing shoe. Any time we get the umbilical in with a dribble bar to put on that much we find the slurry can form a mat over the grass and kill out lines of grass. Interested to hear what other rates people are working at.

We’ve been putting on 3000ish gallon of relatively thin slurry on at a time. Done one lot before first cut, then a dose after each cut. Rather put on little & often. If its thick slurry its far too much, if its thin you’d want flat ground or it’ll run off nearly as fast as you put it on (unless its exceptionally dry at that time of the year) & be feeding the fish.

 

[Jdunn55]

Am I the only one who thinks 5000 gallon/acre is too heavy a dose, unless your slurry is extremely thin? We always limited ourselves to 3500 gallon/acre of relatively thick drystock slurry and that was with a trailing shoe. Any time we get the umbilical in with a dribble bar to put on that much we find the slurry can form a mat over the grass and kill out lines of grass. Interested to hear what other rates people are working at.

There's more water than slurry in the pit so just want to dump it more than anything, would probably be the equivalent of putting 2,500 gallons of normal slurry on

 

[Jdunn55]

It's a half hour round trip with the tanker just due to travel and because of the Gradual slope you end up damging the ground because you're having to continuously pull tankers over the same ground (have to go through fields a, b, and c to get to d etc). Which was another reason I would prefer to do umbilical - especially in the spring when ground is softer

But 2 tanker loads/acre (4600 gallons) is £50/acre so the umbilical needs to be less than that including set up and pipe moves to make it worthwile