Unexplained cattle deaths

[Kevtherev]

Spoke to a farmer today that had two cows to die unexpectedly and one store heifer.
All well minerals etc available only thing different was they were on new reseeds?
Clostridia or would it be grass staggers?
@GTB

 

[bovine]

Let me get my crystal ball

Need a post mortem. This thread is entirely pointless.

 

[Kevtherev]

I was only asking had others had this problem ?[emoji849]

 

[bovine]

What problem?

There must be a thousand causes of sudden death in cattle.

 

[Kevtherev]

Why the negativity?
I was asking as staggers is usually encountered in the spring at turn out!

 

[Dave6170]

Could be a clostridial if there is new dirt turned up releasing spores. I d get it investigated asap

 

[GTB]

My guess would be staggers or milk fever if they've recently calved. We have had two with milk fever this year after calving. First time in many years. Ours are eating mag buckets like mad too.

 

[Kevtherev]

Could be a clostridial if there is new dirt turned up releasing spores. I d get it investigated asap

Thank you that was my line of thinking[emoji106]
Heard of ditches being cleaned out as a cause of a clostridia disease

 

[dinderleat]

Bovine's right to be fair postmortem is the best way to find out what's is happening quickly.

 

[William Mellor]

As @bovine says could be anything from struck from lightning to lampers shooting them to a wild animal escaped from a zoo killing them off one by one to under feeding, could be anything at all

 

[Kevtherev]

Fair enough but I just asked had anyone else had problems on a reseed at this time of year.
I won't fudging bother again this place is full of negativity

 

[rc mx110]

Let me get my crystal ball

Need a post mortem. This thread is entirely pointless.

Lets hope someone rams it up your f**king arse

 

[Flossie]

Does anyone ever get anything concrete back from a PM though? We had a few sudden deaths a few years ago-different cow groups, different stages of lactation, one dry, etc
Maybe it was just coincidence that they died at similar times, but all we got back was hypotheses
The first thing they test for is anthrax with sudden death though-which should be before the carcase moves off farm.

 

[bovine]

It's a stupid question. Come back with a diagnosis and ask how people have dealt with it etc. That is helpful.

Also remember anthrax and sudden death.

 

[Henarar]

My guess would be staggers or milk fever if they've recently calved. We have had two with milk fever this year after calving. First time in many years. Ours are eating mag buckets like mad too.

we had Hassel with milk fever calving out on grass this time of year a couple years ago, we make sure they have silage now for a few weeks before calving

 

[Kevtherev]

It's a stupid question. Come back with a diagnosis and ask how people have dealt with it etc. That is helpful.

Also remember anthrax and sudden death.

Ok how should I have posted then?
Anthrax was mentioned but you didn't give me chance to ask
Tff gone down hill

 

[GTB]

we had Hassel with milk fever calving out on grass this time of year a couple years ago, we make sure they have silage now for a few weeks before calving

In both cases of milk fever this year it was when the mag buckets had run out. Luckily both cows recovered but we're extra careful that they don't run out now. I assume there must be some calcium in them too?

 

[More to life]

Fog fever I've got a crystal ball @bovine

 

[GTB]

Does anyone ever get anything concrete back from a PM though? We had a few sudden deaths a few years ago-different cow groups, different stages of lactation, one dry, etc
Maybe it was just coincidence that they died at similar times, but all we got back was hypotheses
The first thing they test for is anthrax with sudden death though-which should be before the carcase moves off farm.

I agree. Far too many inconclusive results from PMs IMO. And they aren't cheap....

 

[bovine]

Fog fever I've got a crystal ball @bovine

So did Hitler