Unwanted night visitors

Ladybird

Member
Location
West Hendred
Hare coursing. [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]



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Probably inappropriate in this dd section but wanted to vent my anger towards unwanted idiots visiting the farm.

Anybody else having issues ? [emoji17]
 

Lincs Lass

Member
Location
north lincs
Truck load of them came over some fresh ploughing 3 weeks back,,pushed their way through some huge concrete blocks ,ripped the front bumper of ,damaged the front tyre ,by the time they had got across the field the tyre was of the rim and couldnt move it , it was a two year old crewcab ,,it sat on the headland for over a week before they came to claim it ,coppers didnt bother to find out who was collecting it ,,daft thing was it wasnt a stolen truck but it was fitted with a super heavy duty tow bar and their was a heap of crow bars,big hammers and long chains in the back .
They didnt come for hare coarsing loaded down with that lot
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Truck load of them came over some fresh ploughing 3 weeks back,,pushed their way through some huge concrete blocks ,ripped the front bumper of ,damaged the front tyre ,by the time they had got across the field the tyre was of the rim and couldnt move it , it was a two year old crewcab ,,it sat on the headland for over a week before they came to claim it ,coppers didnt bother to find out who was collecting it ,,daft thing was it wasnt a stolen truck but it was fitted with a super heavy duty tow bar and their was a heap of crow bars,big hammers and long chains in the back .
They didnt come for hare coarsing loaded down with that lot

Why didn't somebody make it disappear/ torch it/ crush it while they weren't there?
 

martian

DD Moderator
BASE UK Member
Location
N Herts
Unfortunately (for the OP) DD does encourage coursers as it's much easier to travel after a bit of rain and it suits hares as well. Mercifully we've not had a problem with them here for a few years, until this autumn when we've had several visits a week. There not the sort of people you want to confront. Certainly the police don't, they'll turn up with lights flashing (after a decent interval) to give them a chance to clear off.

On the plus side it has made us speed up our plans to get some more fencing up ready to graze stock in the rotation. Coursers don't, on the whole, like barbed wire, as it cuts the dogs up and makes it harder to drive all over the place
 

Lincs Lass

Member
Location
north lincs
Why didn't somebody make it disappear/ torch it/ crush it while they weren't there?
It would have been very obvious if it suddenly went up in smoke ,,it was right on the road side in full view ,,plod had been when it was found ,took the details and did nothing about ,,all the tools did get removed and not by the coppers .
I couldnt understand why somebody would use their own legally registered vehicle to come prepared to commit a crime ,bit dim
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
The only way to react to these PoS is to be prepared in advance, i.e. neighbours and keepers on speed dial and for them to know what is expected when they receive a call: mobilise immediately to where the coursers have bee spotted, and 'deal with them in a suitable manner'. It's intimidating for a farmer to confront 3 or 4 coursers on his or her own, but equally intimidating for the coursers to see half a dozen pick ups tooting their horns and hearing all kinds of encouragement to 'move along'. It's the only way to keep them away, as these ar$eholes are very good at spreading the word amongst themselves of easy places to hunt, and where it's not worth the effort.

Try Portek 'vermin' scaring rockets, several of them fired from a distance after the dogs have been let loose. Then alert very keeper within 5 miles that there is a lurcher 'needing taking care of'.

Or, if your on your own, they really hate it when you take their picture. Try using a long lens, and make sure to publish pictures of them and their vehicle all over the internet, and forward them to the police.
 
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JCMaloney

Member
Location
LE9 2JG
Good advice above. You need a local network of folk prepared to make things inconvenient for them but remain within the law as best you can, much the same with hunts & sabs mostly coursers & sabs use the "group intimidation" route.... just make your group the same size or bigger & they`ll move to easier pickings.
Sadly thats going to be somebody else but if it happens enough they might realise.
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
Unfortunately (for the OP) DD does encourage coursers as it's much easier to travel after a bit of rain and it suits hares as well. Mercifully we've not had a problem with them here for a few years, until this autumn when we've had several visits a week. There not the sort of people you want to confront. Certainly the police don't, they'll turn up with lights flashing (after a decent interval) to give them a chance to clear off.

On the plus side it has made us speed up our plans to get some more fencing up ready to graze stock in the rotation. Coursers don't, on the whole, like barbed wire, as it cuts the dogs up and makes it harder to drive all over the place

I'd agree that dd does make it easier for them but at least they don't make quite as much mess as they do in my ploughing neighbour's fields. A fellow contractor said to me that they must be the worlds best drivers after they'd made a mess of his fields, anyone else would have got stuck.
We had a lot of trouble last year so put up some new gates only to have them nicked a week ago. Hinges were opposite to stop them being lifted off and a blob of weld on each one to stop them being undone.
The gates they left have now had the nuts welded both sides of the gate and a weld on the top of the hinge. Stuck some tree trunks and stumps in the gaps. I was thinking of painting the gates with anti climb paint but have been told that you are not meant to use it less than 2 m from the ground incase they damage their clothes when stealing my gates!
 

Simon C

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Essex Coast
There is a pikey in our village who has somehow managed to stay living in a house for 20 years without getting the urge to move on. He has a couple of greyhounds and he told me that he occasionally lets them off after the odd hare. He said that he doesn't think I have ever noticed him coursing, which is true, but he does make sure that none of his "relations" ever come over his patch. They even seem to know which fields are mine and which belong to my neighbours, so a pretty good arrangement if you ask me.
 
There is a pikey in our village who has somehow managed to stay living in a house for 20 years without getting the urge to move on. He has a couple of greyhounds and he told me that he occasionally lets them off after the odd hare. He said that he doesn't think I have ever noticed him coursing, which is true, but he does make sure that none of his "relations" ever come over his patch. They even seem to know which fields are mine and which belong to my neighbours, so a pretty good arrangement if you ask me.
Funny enough I inherited similar when I came here. One old pikey from Croydon didn't see him for the first year but bumped into him dusk one day and had a chat. We leave him alone and he looks after us and leaves bird alone. Lasted for ten years and then he stopped coming/died/ahmp or something and since then get dribs and drabs of various scum.
Sent some on their way two weeks ago with dirty knickers can't print details but could smell the sh!t from twenty yards away and their vehicle had valve bounce as it left.
Not been back since but another bunch will be before long I know, just got to make it more uncomfortable on yours than on your neighbours.
 

JeepJeep

Member
Trade
Why didn't somebody make it disappear/ torch it/ crush it while they weren't there?

I've seen vehicles at the side of the road for a few days when I was up and down country in a truck... next time I'd passed it was burnt to a crisp.

These things unfortunately happen..... not often enough unfortunately . Seems in life the bigger the POS you are the easier you get on.
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
@Simon Chiles barbed wire wrapped liberally around the bars of the gates does keep them off quite well around here & prevents them or others climbing over the gates

Sticking barbed wire on doesn't work around here. If it stops Joe public from climbing over to walk their dog it's soon cut off. My neighbour has loads of razor wire that I'd dearly like to use but unfortunately he informs that it would be illegal to do so.
 

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