UPDATE: ARAMS 2nd April 2014

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Staff Member
2nd April UPDATE: UPDATE FROM DEFRA / ARAMS SOUTHWESTERN UPLOADED, THREADS MERGED

The new sheep database is being administered by SouthWestern, and the NFU has worked with them to try to ensure that disruption for farming businesses is minimal.

With so many rumours at market and on social media, it can be hard to separate fact from fiction, but the fundamental message is that for farmers wanting to report on paper, not much will change.

The AML1 form will be replaced by an ARAMS1 form, which is essentially identical, and instead of being sent to trading standards, it will be sent to:
Animal Reporting & Movement Service,
SouthWestern,
PO Box 6299,
MILTON KEYNES,
MK10 1ZQ


This address will be on the bottom of all ARAMS forms.
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For farmers who wish to do so, there will be the facility to create and report movements electronically, either via the online portal at http://arams.co.uk/, or via their flock management software, which will also generate the paper forms you need for the haulier and receiving keeper.

Farmers should soon be able to create an ARAMS account.

Regardless of how a movement was created, farmers will still have the ability to choose whether to acknowledge it on paper or electronically, and the reporting period for both remains the same as it is now (3 days).

Finally, to ensure a smooth implementation, we advise you to check that the details that your local AHVLA office has for you, including postcode(s) and holding number(s), are correct and match with the details your mart and abattoir hold.
 
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Location
Devon
The NFU/ SOUTH WESTERN have done such a great job on this that 1000s of farmers across the country haven't received anything in writing about the changes/ seen a new form and no idea of the address to send the forms to after April the 1st.... the word pathetic on the way it has been implemented doesn't do the situation justice!!!
 

Spartacus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Lancaster
The NFU/ SOUTH WESTERN have done such a great job on this that 1000s of farmers across the country haven't received anything in writing about the changes/ seen a new form and no idea of the address to send the forms to after April the 1st.... the word pathetic on the way it has been implemented doesn't do the situation justice!!!
not to mention the fact we will still have to carry a paper license anyway :scratchhead:
 

flashsheep

Member
as far as I can see the best way to go is to just stick with the paper form, if u want to do electric u need a paper licence for off anyway so report ons electric and do ur offs on paper. lets bombard them with a paper trail see how they like it.
 

Big Al

Member
Location
Middlewich
Has anyone managed to register an account on ARAMS.co.uk yet?
Apparently my CPH does not exist and it wont let me register. This is not a good start lets hope its not a sign of things to come.
 

News

Staff Member
Update from NSA:
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No need to panic about changes to sheep movement reporting system in England, says NSA

Following a high number of telephone calls from members farming in England and concerned they don’t fully understand the changes to sheep movement reporting that come into force in England today, the National Sheep Association says there is no need to panic.

Joanne Briggs, NSA Communications Manager, says: “The good news is that the compulsory changes are slight and the more complicated changes are optional.”

The changes are the result of a new electronic database being introduced by Defra in England for reporting sheep movements, but while it is compulsory for auction markets, collection centres and abattoirs to report electronically, farmers have the choice to stick with the paper system if they do not feel ready to embrace online reporting.

Mrs Briggs continues: “The only real change is that the old AML1 form has been replaced with a new ARAMS1 form. The ARAMS1 is virtually identical so you should have no problem filling it out, but be aware that you need to post or fax it, not to your Local Authority but to SouthWestern, the company delivering the new electronic database on behalf of Defra. Contact details are on the new form, which you can pick up from markets, abattoirs, collection/assembly centres, your Local Authority and shows.

“If you mistakenly fill out an old AML1 form SouthWestern will still accept them for the time being. Local Authorities have also agreed to send on any forms sent to them in error, although this will delay the movement being officially reported. If you make an error on the ARAMS1 form this will not stop the movement going ahead, but you will be contacted by SouthWestern if, for example, the CPH number is wrong or you’ve forgotten to sign the form. SouthWestern’s office at Milton Keynes will contact you by telephone, email and/or letter to remedy an error and, only as a last resort, refer it to the Local Authority. NSA understands such a referral will not automatically trigger a cross compliance penalty, as incorrectly reporting a movement is not an offence. The only document that needs to be correct for cross compliance purposes is your holding register, so it is important this is up-to-date and correct should you receive an inspection.

“A holding register that can be automatically updated by the electronic database is one option on offer to farmers who chose to report electronically rather than on paper. You can find out more about this and have a look around the SouthWestern website, with no obligation to commit to online reporting, by opening an account at www.arams.co.uk.”

NSA provides this useful summary of the changes from today:-

  • You MUST swap from the old AML1 form to the new ARAMS form and send it to SouthWestern instead of your Local Authority.
  • You are ENCOURAGED to check that your local AHVLA office has the correct name, address, postcode and CPHs(s) for you, and that those CPHs are registered for sheep.
  • You can CHOOSE to register an online account and report movements electronically.

Mrs Briggs adds: “NSA remains disappointed that Defra has decided to remove the non-EID slaughter option for English farmers, but this change does not come in until 1st January 2015 and you can continue to use non-EID tags until this date as Defra has accepted there will be a transition period during 2015 when not all lambs are yet electronically identified.”

The official Defra guidance was posted to all registered sheep keepers on Friday 24th March. SouthWestern guidance can be viewed at www.arams.co.uk, while the SouthWestern helpline opens today and is available 8am-8pm Monday to Saturday on 08445 730137. NSA members can also contact NSA for additional assistance on 01684 892661 or the members-only area of www.nationalsheep.org.uk.
 

Cow1

Member
What a joke. The system goes live, the same day as the first day you are allowed to register. I was given 2 new forms at market yesterday so I thought I would register so I could do movements more easily online. However it keeps telling me that my cph and postcode don't match. I thought I will phone a helpline to check. looked on the website and they haven't given a phone number out to use, only e mail address. That's useful then, nationwide database with no helpline on the first day. Progress!!!
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
What a joke. The system goes live, the same day as the first day you are allowed to register. I was given 2 new forms at market yesterday so I thought I would register so I could do movements more easily online. However it keeps telling me that my cph and postcode don't match. I thought I will phone a helpline to check. looked on the website and they haven't given a phone number out to use, only e mail address. That's useful then, nationwide database with no helpline on the first day. Progress!!!
There's more too isn't there? Why do you have to check with local AHVLA if sheep have been registered with your CPH? Look at all the threats smattered all over the 1 December sheep and goat return but that will be for a different department though won't it :rolleyes:
 
Just completed my first movement licence and printed off the copies. What a pain filling all the boxes in. Compared to the electronic pig movement system it is very poorly designed. no pre-population of your details on the form, no drop down lists for markets and abatoirs. no date calendars etc.
 

llamedos

New Member
What a joke. The system goes live, the same day as the first day you are allowed to register. I was given 2 new forms at market yesterday so I thought I would register so I could do movements more easily online. However it keeps telling me that my cph and postcode don't match. I thought I will phone a helpline to check. looked on the website and they haven't given a phone number out to use, only e mail address. That's useful then, nationwide database with no helpline on the first day. Progress!!!

0844 573 0137 press 2 for farmers helpline
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