Urea in spring barley seed bed

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
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Midlands
I've been thinking for a while we need to up rates for modern varieties. Yields are pretty stagnant but it's maybe because we still use old N rates from long ago. Was saying to dad the other day , roughly , if 80units (old skool for his benefit) can grow 2 ton an acre , then surely we need 120units for 3 with same N dilution

It's just having the bottle to actually try it with malting barley

I’m using 150 kg/ha N for 1.85 Planet and Laureate on light land after wheat with low soil N. Your post harvest grain N levels will tell you whether you’ve got the right dose or not. Hard to gauge in advance or when you’re getting unusually high or low yields.
 

jh.

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fife
I've tried it on feed barley, normally go to
110 but did some at 120 and didn't see any yield benefit.

I'm generally at 90 for malting barley, but all laureate this year, so will try some at 100..
Do u think residual N could be a problem this year. Drought last year, lower yields and then dry winter
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
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Fen Edge
I’m using 150 kg/ha N for 1.85 Planet and Laureate on light land after wheat with low soil N. Your post harvest grain N levels will tell you whether you’ve got the right dose or not. Hard to gauge in advance or when you’re getting unusually high or low yields.
At what average yield? I would use 90kgs or so to target 1.65 propino. Only anticipate 6.5t/ha yield though
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
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Midlands
Am I under doing it?

I don't know. You grow a variety with good demand for your local market.

Around here it's export or a long haul to East Anglia or Soufflet at Burton on Trent. Maris Otter or Concerto for Warminster malting. Trucks leaving my yard with Planet for a Cefetra 4000t boat at Poole and Laureate for Burton today. It was my first attempt at Laureate and late drilling meant higher N so brewing only. I reduced the N to 125 kg/ha for the late April drilling this year.
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
FYI BBC 2 8pm tonight Greg Wallace is doing a tour of the Souflet malting at Burton on Trent.

Good programme.

Made me smile when they kept saying how long a process malting and brewing was.

Growing the barley in the first place takes a bit longer.

Would be interesting if they showed the cost of inputs in the beer too....!
 

solo

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Location
worcestershire
Good programme.

Made me smile when they kept saying how long a process malting and brewing was.

Growing the barley in the first place takes a bit longer.

Would be interesting if they showed the cost of inputs in the beer too....!
I thought it was a shame that the hop growers didn’t get any air time like Overbury Estate, to be fair, but otherwise it was a very informative insight into the brewing industry. I did note there was no sampling on intake.:rolleyes: All my barley should go there if I could get the right sample.:whistle:
 

jh.

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Location
fife
I'm the same. All on the malting barley . Cut the stuff after winter wheat back by 15kgN/hec and after tatties by 23kgN/h but rest all at usual levels
 

Happy

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Location
Scotland
Dont see much point in varying from normal fertiliser plan at this stage. Last years crop wasn’t sown until 23rd-30th April and all made low N malting spec.
This years crop in 3 -4 weeks earlier & just about all rowed up. Spent today topping up to the usual 130kg N/ha. Plenty of time for rain to come and crop to use it up.

You could almost see the stuff growing in the heat today. Fields much greener tonight than they were this morning:)
 

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