US to lift lamb import ban

abitdaft

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Scotland
It's also worth mentioning that the Americans associate anything British or English with quality. But let's call it British Lamb and not cause confusion by English, Scotch and Welsh Lamb vying with each other for market share.

Have to disagree, next it will be British Whisky? Many Americans associate the Celtic nations as the places that their forebears came from and if that adds value why knock it?
 

Boydvalley

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Bath
Its literally the least Biden could do for Johnson so that he didn’t go home with nothing having been rejected on a trade agreement. Biden deeply cares about the effects of Brexit on Ireland and wants to see if we hold up our side of the Brexit agreement. We’re getting nothing until Washington is sure Ireland is sorted.

Clever give away. Won’t upset many in US. Just happens to be our industry that benefits.
 

Agrivator

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I suspect HCC will be no more inclined to give up the Welsh Lamb brand than QMS would be to relinquish that of Scotch Beef.
They have both put an awful lot of time and money into building those brands, very successfully. It’s perhaps a pity that AHDB haven’t managed to be so successful.

I do agree that those organisations should never have been split, but that’s devolution for you.

But Scotch Beef doesn't belong to QMS. It belongs to Smithfield who coined the term to describe beef from Aberdeenshire and the Mearns which took so long the reach London that when it arrived it was fully matured and of very good eating quality.

QMS has not done much to promote anything other than itself.
 

Agrivator

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And why don't we just put a Union Flag on it and call it British Beltex Lamb.

In fact, I have just patented the term, but am willing to sell the rights...............
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
And why don't we just put a Union Flag on it and call it British Beltex Lamb.

In fact, I have just patented the term, but am willing to sell the rights...............

When the whole world, other than the UK, is promoting meat eating quality through marbling and higher imf, you want to strike out in the opposite direction and promote lean, ‘boot leather’ lamb?

I like your thinking. At least it will be a unique marketing angle.👍 :facepalm:
 

abitdaft

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Scotland
But Scotch Beef doesn't belong to QMS. It belongs to Smithfield who coined the term to describe beef from Aberdeenshire and the Mearns which took so long the reach London that when it arrived it was fully matured and of very good eating quality.

QMS has not done much to promote anything other than itself.

QMS has provided a bench mark for Scottish/Scotch lamb, to qualify as Scotch lamb that lamb has constraints, it must be born, raised and never left Scotland it's entire life. I cannot understand why anyone producing lamb in Scotland would wish to see their lamb sold under the British umbrella. If you produce lamb in Scotland or Wales for that matter or anywhere you have a PGI you really should hang on to that premium selling point. British lamb does not exist. not in the way that Scotch or Welsh lamb does. I would be willing to bet half our flock that if you went into a New York restaurant and they had lamb on the menu it would not be described as British. It would be Welsh or Scottish.
 
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tepapa

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Livestock Farmer
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North Wales
We can't go complaining about the carbon footprint of importing from Australia or NZ if we go and send lamb to the USA.

Other than that it's great news.
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
I guess we will have it but will it meet our high welfare standards?
Oh now you've done it:facepalm::)


It's only just been announced and the English, Welsh and Scottish are already arguing about it. Probably working out ways to stab each other in the back and undercut one another so there's nothing left in the job.
Personally I think British Beef and British Lamb is the brand you want when exporting but it's just my opinion. Work together, make some money(y)
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Oh now you've done it:facepalm::)


It's only just been announced and the English, Welsh and Scottish are already arguing about it. Probably working out ways to stab each other in the back and undercut one another so there's nothing left in the job.
Personally I think British Beef and British Lamb is the brand you want when exporting but it's just my opinion. Work together, make some money(y)

No arguing. Welsh lamb and Scotch beef are already seen as premium brands, so why start again? Those brands have been established by hard work and expense, so daft to go back now.

The fact that my lamb, now produced in Wales, is largely the result of a French ram breed over NZ maternal genetics, and was PGI status ‘West Country lamb’ when they grazed fields in North Gloucestershire, is neither here nor there.🤐🤫
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
No arguing. Welsh lamb and Scotch beef are already seen as premium brands, so why start again? Those brands have been established by hard work and expense, so daft to go back now.

The fact that my lamb, now produced in Wales, is largely the result of a French ram breed over NZ maternal genetics, and was PGI status ‘West Country lamb’ when they grazed fields in North Gloucestershire, is neither here nor there.🤐🤫
But do the yanks know where Wales is? They might say, never mind that welsh stuff, we can buy British now.
A bit like when they say "New Zealand, what part of Australia is New Zealand"o_O:banghead:;)
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
But do the yanks know where Wales is? They might say, never mind that welsh stuff, we can buy British now.
A bit like when they say "New Zealand, what part of Australia is New Zealand"o_O:banghead:;)

That's where the strong branding comes in. We'll just tell the yanks it's near to Ireland, they'll like that. (y)

Isn't New Zealand that wee island just to the south east of Australia, just off the Tasmanian coast? :unsure:
 

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