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<blockquote data-quote="Sparkplug" data-source="post: 7765829" data-attributes="member: 41938"><p>AS you probably know - its a Bobcat in Red - this topic has been covered a number of times - if you are going to keep it 20 yrs the depreciation will not be so much of a problem for you - if the price is similar new to market leaders - JCB & Manitou - buy one of of those - Bobcat & Massey have never sold any quantity of machines in the UK over many many years - so they do not establish a used following and Trade Price - it may be better than the market leaders - but we will never know - to stimulate market share they have deals quite often - 0% over 5 yrs, drop the selling price to gain sales - this all ok but it has not stimulated growing sales as once the deals have finished, customers buy there preferred machine. Over 25 yrs there market share has been dismal. They sell better in mainland Europe as do all Bobcat products - their used prices have gone up because of a shortage and pricey JCB, Manitou, Merlo etc so Bobcat TH and Massey are lower down the pecking order and now benefitting from crazy market leaders prices and production delays. They also update machines and models more regular than market leaders - and this has a negative effect on values -</p><p>With regard to APUH on TH, with 65% of the TH weight on the rear axle when unladen, normal weight on HOOK used to be advised as 2,000 kgs - in order not to damage Axle manufactures load restrictions. Subject to brakes, you could probably tow 30 tons on a Drawbar Trailer , and often manufactures have "Gross Train Weight" on the Serial No Plate - but as to how they ever come up with these figures I have know idea, All IMO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sparkplug, post: 7765829, member: 41938"] AS you probably know - its a Bobcat in Red - this topic has been covered a number of times - if you are going to keep it 20 yrs the depreciation will not be so much of a problem for you - if the price is similar new to market leaders - JCB & Manitou - buy one of of those - Bobcat & Massey have never sold any quantity of machines in the UK over many many years - so they do not establish a used following and Trade Price - it may be better than the market leaders - but we will never know - to stimulate market share they have deals quite often - 0% over 5 yrs, drop the selling price to gain sales - this all ok but it has not stimulated growing sales as once the deals have finished, customers buy there preferred machine. Over 25 yrs there market share has been dismal. They sell better in mainland Europe as do all Bobcat products - their used prices have gone up because of a shortage and pricey JCB, Manitou, Merlo etc so Bobcat TH and Massey are lower down the pecking order and now benefitting from crazy market leaders prices and production delays. They also update machines and models more regular than market leaders - and this has a negative effect on values - With regard to APUH on TH, with 65% of the TH weight on the rear axle when unladen, normal weight on HOOK used to be advised as 2,000 kgs - in order not to damage Axle manufactures load restrictions. Subject to brakes, you could probably tow 30 tons on a Drawbar Trailer , and often manufactures have "Gross Train Weight" on the Serial No Plate - but as to how they ever come up with these figures I have know idea, All IMO [/QUOTE]
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