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Using a Double Chop to Mow?

Discussion in 'Classic Machinery' started by Selectamatic, Jun 3, 2018.

  1. Selectamatic

    Selectamatic Member

    Location:
    North Wales
    I've had an idea... :)

    If I took a double chop to the hayfield, set it going with the rear auger door open, would it mow it, bash it up a bit it, and throw it out of the back, on the floor to wilt?


    Would it do too much / too little conditioning?

    Would the auger still feed it to the flywheel, chop it and blow it out the spout?

    Should I stop getting these ideas?! :ROFLMAO:

    Opinions, anyone?
     
  2. davidroberts30

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Pray it dont rain if you do do it

    Might be better to mow in swathes and do as you say after,it wont mangle it up as much
     
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  3. Selectamatic

    Selectamatic Member

    Location:
    North Wales
    Run it through the swaths rather than direct cut? Why so?

    Surely it would not be much worse than a Mower Conditioner?
     
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  4. davidroberts30

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Try it !!
     
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  5. Selectamatic

    Selectamatic Member

    Location:
    North Wales
    Thought I'd ask some grown ups on here first... :)
     
  6. Kevtherev

    Kevtherev Member

    Location:
    Welshpool Powys
    Used to do it with the old new Holland double chop worked well.
    They were designed to cut as a mower as well if needed
     
  7. davidroberts30

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    Please yourself
    We've tried it both ways here in the past
    Direct cut is well mangled
    Less so doing swathes
     
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  8. Boohoo

    Boohoo Member

    Location:
    Newtownabbey
    Think you'd need to take the auger drive chain off to make sure that grass didn't end up in the flywheel. It should work well and the grass will dry a lot faster.
     
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  9. davidroberts30

    Location:
    pembrokeshire
    It will clear the auger
     
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  10. mar

    mar Member

    Location:
    Ulster
    I have seen one modified to cut potato tops and also to cut rushes, I never seen them working though.
     
  11. essexpete

    essexpete Member

    Location:
    Essex
    I have mown under the hedges with a flail and it does dry very quickly but smashed up too much. I did try the flat as a conditioner following disc mower. The grass was tough and long. The rotor grabbed the swath like a rope and blocked the machine.
     
  12. oakleaf

    oakleaf Member

    Saw it done in the 70s with a kidd dc.
    Worked ok in so far as the auger and flywheel werent stopped and grass just flew out the back door. It was picked up the following day.
    Once drum and disc mowers became common place though it was far easier to mow with them.
    Thing was though with the kidd dc anyway it was actually easier and faster to direct cut.
     
  13. bobk

    bobk Member

    Location:
    stafford
    Someone trying to re invent the wheel .:scratchhead:
     
  14. Flat 10

    Flat 10 Member

    Location:
    Fen Edge
  15. Henarar

    Henarar Member

    Location:
    ZumerZet Somerset
    they did make flail mowers which were more or less the same thing without the flywheel etc wilder made one
    it would dry fast behind one you only have to see how fast stuff dry's behind a topper to work that out but as said you wouldn't want rain on it
     
  16. Once did a field but only half way up the standing crop to help it wilt a little, next day pick up as usual with a double chop. A lot better DM but the NH 339 didn't like chopping the stuff, it came out the spout rather on the long side and was awful to buckrake. Was the Kidd machine the one to pick up from the swath if needed?
     
  17. Exfarmer

    Exfarmer Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    Kydd was a better machine for picking up from Swathe, it had wide flails rather than the S style of the NH. This meant it was better at direct cutting too, we tried it once but the energy of direct cutting and the fact it tied up the forager meant we did not repeat it. The machine had a fatal fault, the secondary cut rotor had both bearings on the drive side, this was designed so the throat had a larger entrance, however it also meant if a foreign object went in , blow ups were disastrous as the two knives could hit and they did! It was a shame as otherwise it was a good machine.
     
  18. Mrs Brown

    Mrs Brown Member

    Location:
    Orkney Islands
    Tarrup had the best chopper, they had a cupped blade that would break if it hit some thing hard came out the spout with little damage,as said above the kydd was near a right off if any thing went in them, bent the shaft for starters then every thing started to collide, the first of them were all welded together but think the Mk 2 was bolted so made it a bit better to mend.
    New Hollands blades were on a tapered slide and if the adjusting bolts wrent backed off after setting it was akin to the Kydd.
     

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