Vaderstad rapid questions

[KB6930]

We bought a 4m rapid system disc and it's a decent bit of kit I've drilled 300 acres with it and seems to be fine but will tell when it appears through the ground .

Does anyone find them bad for pulling out stones? We're a pretty stoney place so are used to lifting stones but this is serious this year it's taking a lot longer to roll than to drill it !!!

Or is it just it's firmer with the carrier and drill over it so the rollers won't put them away?

 

[ollie989898]

Just buy a 6m one and be done with it. Beg/borrow/steal/hire a bigger tractor if needs be. Rapid is the kind of drill that has to be used when the going is right and a 6m one will let you take advantage of the weather windows: if it turns sour you park it up.

 

[Fraserb]

We bought a 4m rapid system disc and it's a decent bit of kit I've drilled 300 acres with it and seems to be fine but will tell when it appears through the ground .

Does anyone find them bad for pulling out stones? We're a pretty stoney place so are used to lifting stones but this is serious this year it's taking a lot longer to roll than to drill it !!!

Or is it just it's firmer with the carrier and drill over it so the rollers won't put them away?

We've found a few fields stonier this year than usual and we've not changed anything, your theory about being firmer will be true as well, if we run the rollers and paddles over in front of the drill then its definitely harder to roll stones in.

 

[KB6930]

We've found a few fields stonier this year than usual and we've not changed anything, your theory about being firmer will be true as well, if we run the rollers and paddles over in front of the drill then its definitely harder to roll stones in.

I think it's possibly just a bad year for stones but at the moment I wish we'd either never seen the bloody thing or just used the combi!!!!!

 

[Brisel]

Angled tines on a power harrow will push the stones down. The worst for pulling stones up is a tine drill. I wouldn't say a disced Rapid is too bad - the rear press wheels push them down pretty well.

 

[willy]

Just buy a 6m one and be done with it. Beg/borrow/steal/hire a bigger tractor if needs be. Rapid is the kind of drill that has to be used when the going is right and a 6m one will let you take advantage of the weather windows: if it turns sour you park it up.

Exactly what I did, work rates are amazing

 

[ollie989898]

Exactly what I did, work rates are amazing

I think once you have worked with a 6 meter drill you never really go back as the job becomes more of a ballache. Couple that width with the forward speeds possible with a vaddy and the area covered shoots up monumentally. It also leaves a firm surface which can take a roller or sprayer etc more readily I always thought. Once they are set right they just crank out the acres.

I wonder if 6 metre drills might command a more reasonable price as fewer people would be in the market for one due to not having the power for it or being put off by the number of wearing parts to change on a used drill of that width. Yes it won't fit all tramline systems but you don't have to drill them anyway, with the use of farm saved seed you aren't losing that much money using a tad more seed.

 

[MBC]

I just bought a system disc rapid 400. Always had a 3 meter amazon one passbut stones are destroying it. So hoping the rapid works better. Maybe I should of bought 600 but buying secondhand I can only buy what others are selling. Looking to run paddle board rollers over ploughing first then drill. One question I have never worked a rapid or even a trailed drill. Do you sow the headland first or last ? Thanks

 

[KB6930]

I just bought a system disc rapid 400. Always had a 3 meter amazon one passbut stones are destroying it. So hoping the rapid works better. Maybe I should of bought 600 but buying secondhand I can only buy what others are selling. Looking to run paddle board rollers over ploughing first then drill. One question I have never worked a rapid or even a trailed drill. Do you sow the headland first or last ? Thanks

Going by my experience this spring drill last and you'll need to rip it up before drilling or nothing will grow !!

 

[willy]

I always drill heaands first. Maybe if it was really wet I would do them last

 

[Brisel]

I just bought a system disc rapid 400. Always had a 3 meter amazon one passbut stones are destroying it. So hoping the rapid works better. Maybe I should of bought 600 but buying secondhand I can only buy what others are selling. Looking to run paddle board rollers over ploughing first then drill. One question I have never worked a rapid or even a trailed drill. Do you sow the headland first or last ? Thanks

It varies. I did mine first but others do them last, putting the discs in to pull the wheelings out.

 

[ollie989898]

Go by the conditions and your soil. On some farms min tilled seed beds are pretty firm anyway and can be drilled first no sweat.

 

[Boysground]

I nearly always drill headlands last.
Easy with sat nav, before that I would do the headland last with the previous cultivation and use the mark from that for the headland.

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[Farmer_Joe]

I’ve never drilled owt being a humble livestock farmer but if you do headlands first don’t you munch them up when doing rest of field