Valtra T234 Review: Farm mach. journal

Spear

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Devon
Have to brake like driving a car. Keep heel on floor and gently apply brake. Tractor/trailer brake ratio used to be determined by choice of valve fitted to tractor, would assume it’s still the same.
 

james ds

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Location
leinster
Case was a power shift and this is a vesue. It is in a different league to the puma. Can’t complain about noise. @james ds how do you find your valtra when operating trailer brakes
The brakes are working as they should , if anything the trailer brakes are coming on too strong , when pulling the wagon in the field if I hit the brakes the wagon wheels can leave a skid mark , it took a bit of getting use to so not to press the brakes too hard , it's hydraulic brakes I have on the wagon so no air yet.
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
Which one...Valtra T254 or Fendt 724 mainly for Mowing and trailer work (carting and dump)

I have 3400 hrs on my 254 now , it has been 100% faultless , easy on fuel and massive power . A lot cheaper than the fendt and probably more reliable.

Own and drive a t254 and I would have to say buy the fendt,gearbox in the valtra let's it down,if they did a Vario at this hp i would recommend the valtra.
Hope that cleared it up for you :unsure: :D
 
Now seriously, how does the direct gearbox in the Valtra work. Does the operator control it so it will stay in one range all day and then go from 0-top whack or what? The active/versu (don't ask me the difference between them as I don't know) gearbox in Valtras is very clever by pretending to be a full powershift with automated range changes but jaysus it doesn't help you on junctions much. Does the direct do away with all this? I mean can I leave it in range D all day and then pull away from junctions etc?
 

james ds

Member
Location
leinster
Now seriously, how does the direct gearbox in the Valtra work. Does the operator control it so it will stay in one range all day and then go from 0-top whack or what? The active/versu (don't ask me the difference between them as I don't know) gearbox in Valtras is very clever by pretending to be a full powershift with automated range changes but jaysus it doesn't help you on junctions much. Does the direct do away with all this? I mean can I leave it in range D all day and then pull away from junctions etc?
I don’t know as I’ve never worked a direct , I have a 2018 reg 254 and a 2021 reg 234, the 234 is much sweeter and smoother at junctions so in my opinion they have been upgraded, the new 255 is now out on demo and from talking to lads who have tested it , it is a better again transmission set up. So with the versu getting smoother with every upgrade I don’t see the need to go for a direct. The versu has now made driving as simple and easy as I need it to be, just my opinion.
 

HAM135

Member
Arable Farmer
Now seriously, how does the direct gearbox in the Valtra work. Does the operator control it so it will stay in one range all day and then go from 0-top whack or what? The active/versu (don't ask me the difference between them as I don't know) gearbox in Valtras is very clever by pretending to be a full powershift with automated range changes but jaysus it doesn't help you on junctions much. Does the direct do away with all this? I mean can I leave it in range D all day and then pull away from junctions etc?
Direct does auto range changes,not ideal but doesn't lose momentum like the versu,on road work it will stay in d range most of the time,will go down to c range automatically at junctions if it needs to,we have had the latest software put into our 254 and I think it's actually made the gearbox worse,a shame because the rest of the tractor is spot on.
The only way to use the versu gearbox is put it in manual mode,auto mode is crap and always wants to change at the wrong time.
 
Direct does auto range changes,not ideal but doesn't lose momentum like the versu,on road work it will stay in d range most of the time,will go down to c range automatically at junctions if it needs to,we have had the latest software put into our 254 and I think it's actually made the gearbox worse,a shame because the rest of the tractor is spot on.

Ah ok, so you can drive everywhere in C or D range in the direct and it will change down if it needs to. For field work I presume it will adopt the range appropriate for the speed and give you plenty of space either side of it using the hydraulic side of the box.
 

Wannabe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hope that cleared it up for you :unsure: :D
🤪 Oh yes but no but yes but!!.... Basically I think they both will do the job and there are issues with both/all tractors but I suppose it all depends what you want to put up with/can afford🤑 I'm sure Fendt wouldn't be where they are (alleged rolls royce) of the tractor world without good reason, yes the price and service are heavy but all in all a cracking machine. The Valtra are snapping at the heels with every upgrade/new model they bring out. So on that note I suppose it comes down to what is the best deal I can get? or am I missing something blatantly obvious?
 
🤪 Oh yes but no but yes but!!.... Basically I think they both will do the job and there are issues with both/all tractors but I suppose it all depends what you want to put up with/can afford🤑 I'm sure Fendt wouldn't be where they are (alleged rolls royce) of the tractor world without good reason, yes the price and service are heavy but all in all a cracking machine. The Valtra are snapping at the heels with every upgrade/new model they bring out. So on that note I suppose it comes down to what is the best deal I can get? or am I missing something blatantly obvious?

You are missing a bit part of the equation. Valtras are way cooler than Fendts.
 

T C

Member
Location
Nr Kelso
Direct does auto range changes,not ideal but doesn't lose momentum like the versu,on road work it will stay in d range most of the time,will go down to c range automatically at junctions if it needs to,we have had the latest software put into our 254 and I think it's actually made the gearbox worse,a shame because the rest of the tractor is spot on.
The only way to use the versu gearbox is put it in manual mode,auto mode is crap and always wants to change at the wrong time.
Got a couple of versus and use auto all the time. The C D range change is slow but you get used to it.
You can set up a second set of engine rev parameters on auto 2.
 

Fendt516profi

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
Ah ok, so you can drive everywhere in C or D range in the direct and it will change down if it needs to. For field work I presume it will adopt the range appropriate for the speed and give you plenty of space either side of it using the hydraulic side of the box.
You can drive every where in C-D and it will change range itself but will always drop into C if you come to a stop. If your just in tractor or have something light on you can turn auto change off and it will stay in D. In field you pick the.range to drive in depending on how much grunt you want and how fast you want to go
A, 0-6mph B, 0-10mph C, 0-17mph D, 0-35mph
 

james ds

Member
Location
leinster
🤪 Oh yes but no but yes but!!.... Basically I think they both will do the job and there are issues with both/all tractors but I suppose it all depends what you want to put up with/can afford🤑 I'm sure Fendt wouldn't be where they are (alleged rolls royce) of the tractor world without good reason, yes the price and service are heavy but all in all a cracking machine. The Valtra are snapping at the heels with every upgrade/new model they bring out. So on that note I suppose it comes down to what is the best deal I can get? or am I missing something blatantly obvious?
No your not missing much, the big advantages that fendt had have been eroded , fendt were the most comfortable tractor to sit in all day now valtra have caught up to them, the vario transmission in the fendt is a fantastic design but now the new valtra transmissions are doing nearly the same thing will ease, then you have the engines , fendt made their name with the Mwm engines , valtra made their name with the sisu engine , now the deutz engine in the fendt is giving a few issues compared to the sisu engine being bullet proof, the sisu engine is the best for holding its torque as well. Then the price new is a bit differant , about €40 k more for the fendt. So I will stick with the valtra as I see no advantages to buying a fendt .
 

Wannabe

Member
Livestock Farmer
No your not missing much, the big advantages that fendt had have been eroded , fendt were the most comfortable tractor to sit in all day now valtra have caught up to them, the vario transmission in the fendt is a fantastic design but now the new valtra transmissions are doing nearly the same thing will ease, then you have the engines , fendt made their name with the Mwm engines , valtra made their name with the sisu engine , now the deutz engine in the fendt is giving a few issues compared to the sisu engine being bullet proof, the sisu engine is the best for holding its torque as well. Then the price new is a bit differant , about €40 k more for the fendt. So I will stick with the valtra as I see no advantages to buying a fendt .
Trying to find a new Valtra T254 is like searching for the easter bunny!!.....keep getting offered T234, my take is more the merrier (HP) I want to put a loader on and tow stuff Should I hold out? or go for a second hand low hour Fendt 724??
 

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