Valtra v John Deere

[michael N123]

Your the only one I’ve ever heard complain about the hitch, in 25 years here no driver ever had a problem with it , drivers who can read mirrors and now the telescopic hitches are as clear as day to see . So I’d say your lack of experience is your problem.

I find it quicker with a mirror on the back window than a telescopic hitch it’s one thing I’ve never seen the need for

 

[agri knives]

I find it quicker with a mirror on the back window than a telescopic hitch it’s one thing I’ve never seen the need for

The differance is you can drive a tractor and so can most operators. If your having trouble picking up a trailer , what chance would you have reversing a trailer in a tight yard.

 

[Down farmer]

They had to make their own because JD couldn’t make one that lasted.

Surely class has given up onJD engines and put the much superior FPT engine in their top models!!

 

[kiwi pom]

Sorry to burst your bubble but I know of head gaskets going in 2016 reg JDs . With only 1000 hrs on it. And as I told you before I have a two year old 254 , a lot of features are the same on valtras no matter what power they are. What’s your experience with valtras .

None recently other than experiences from others (some good some bad) which is why I've never told the OP to buy one or the other. I have mentioned a few things that I would consider, which are obviously whether you like one over the other and dealer back up, parts availability and the distance from the dealers.

If you're in to tit for tat stories there's a 6170R in Farm Machinery Journal with 21500 hours on it. It replaced a 27000 hour 6610, so all things are possible. As ever the operator is a huge factor.

Perhaps the OP will buy a Kubota and shut everyone up?

 

[Fendt516profi]

Your the only one I’ve ever heard complain about the hitch, in 25 years here no driver ever had a problem with it , drivers who can read mirrors and now the telescopic hitches are as clear as day to see . So I’d say your lack of experience is your problem.

So you can see the telescopic hitch when its extended and lowered OUT OF THE BACK WINDOW?

 

[agri knives]

None recently other than experiences from others (some good some bad) which is why I've never told the OP to buy one or the other. I have mentioned a few things that I would consider, which are obviously whether you like one over the other and dealer back up, parts availability and the distance from the dealers.

If you're in to tit for tat stories there's a 6170R in Farm Machinery Journal with 21500 hours on it. It replaced a 27000 hour 6610, so all things are possible. As ever the operator is a huge factor.

Perhaps the OP will buy a Kubota and shut everyone up?

Typical an advisor with no experience .

 

[kiwi pom]

Typical an advisor with no experience .

You don't have one either.
I have a little experience on the older ranges you run but not much as they're not exactly common around here.
I have a mate in England that runs several of the new range and I've asked him about them, but that doesn't count. Which is why I only offered general advice.

 

[DrDunc]

The direct gearbox "engine" braking is superb. Its a common complaint that valtra brake pedal feel isn't good, and they're spongey overall. If they are, then they're needing bled properly with a trailer hose connected. Bled properly, you need to watch you don't put yourself through the windscreen

So you can see the telescopic hitch when its extended and lowered OUT OF THE BACK WINDOW?

You can't, but it's not really the first time that Jimmy G has been caught talking bollox He's probably the worst feature of valtra ownership

Using the hitch mirror did take a couple of attempts to get used to it, but after loading and carting a few thousand bales, you get used to it

(Joking aside, it's actually no bother. Like so much of the valtra cab, somebody in development has spent many hours getting it right before they starting manufacturing them).

"Hydraulic assist" is a patented valtra feature that's brilliant for loader work and it's not been mentioned so far (hard to believe after 22 pages!!!)

The engine rpm is automatically increased when the hydraulics demand oil. It works on both conventional and direct gearbox versions, and makes it near impossible to stall the bugger.

@Northeastfarmer have you frightened the Deere dealer by arranging a demo valtra yet?

 

[J 1177]

Bloody el @Northeastfarmer make a decision will you, it's going to descend into fisticuffs on here.

 

[Optimus]

Your the only one I’ve ever heard complain about the hitch, in 25 years here no driver ever had a problem with it , drivers who can read mirrors and now the telescopic hitches are as clear as day to see . So I’d say your lack of experience is your problem.

My point was the hitch on the valtra isn't as good to see as my 6820 and that's just fact!

 

[melted welly]

Your the only one I’ve ever heard complain about the hitch, in 25 years here no driver ever had a problem with it , drivers who can read mirrors and now the telescopic hitches are as clear as day to see . So I’d say your lack of experience is your problem.

Ah come on now, I think our valtra is great, but hitch visibility is crap.

 

[Deerefarmer]

Not read this thread but I wanted to be helpful

 

[Sid]

I would say the ergonomics of a JD cab used to be better than any other brand.

Hence the driver appeal.

 

[livestock 1]

 

[livestock 1]

What would that have cost new?

 

[livestock 1]

55k ?

 

[GeorgeK]

Hi,
I have close connections with SENIOR Valtra officials.
They tell me Valtra stands for Very Atrocious Lame TRActors.
For the safety of those reading this top secret Valtra information, I cannot reveal the identity of my sources.
- This story first revealed on: ValtraLeaks.com, posted by: BigJDFan

 

[Fendt516profi]

Hi,
I have close connections with SENIOR Valtra officials.
They tell me Valtra stands for Very Atrocious Lame TRActors.
For the safety of those reading this top secret Valtra information, I cannot reveal the identity of my sources.
- This story first revealed on: ValtraLeaks.com, posted by: BigJDFan

Was your source @james ds

 

[Gedd]

Bloody el @Northeastfarmer make a decision will you, it's going to descend into fisticuffs on here.

He's bought 1 of each he's very indecisive

 

[Sid]

Hi,
I have close connections with SENIOR Valtra officials.
They tell me Valtra stands for Very Atrocious Lame TRActors.
For the safety of those reading this top secret Valtra information, I cannot reveal the identity of my sources.
- This story first revealed on: ValtraLeaks.com, posted by: BigJDFan

Had a salesman call my tractor a Vomit once, if the paperwork hadn't been signed on new machine it would have been cancelled!

He's now selling a different brand than what he told me was the best thing since sliced bread!
One day he may be selling Valtra.
Beware be very aware