Valtra vs Massey Vs Fendt

agcoparts

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Could it be something similar? There's talk of a presentation in the summer..
 

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daveydiesel1

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Co antrim
I looked in the cab of a 155m I think it was. I was quite surprised that it seemed to look quite a cramped cab
Aye its quite a bit smaller. Wouldnt bother me personally as long as there was no passenger in it with me, which now im gettin "more mature 😉" i dont like havin a passenger with me as i cant be bothered havin to talk to them so that suits me fine
 
Mines a Direct spec 4 cylinder bells and whistles (N134D)

I have never before driven a tractor that is so well thought out, nor so comfortable

Makes driving anything else just annoying !

The 4 cylinder gets more raucous under load than some more recently designed engines, but not intrusive
what makes are you comparing it to comfort wise? some people say claas and deutz have better suspension?
 

DrDunc

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Dunsyre
what makes are you comparing it to comfort wise? some people say claas and deutz have better suspension?
The geometry of valtra front suspension, and position of the seat relative to the centre of pitch is near perfect (means is not like sitting on a bucking bronco). Air bags are standard on 6 cylinder (optional on 4) and make it like riding in an executive coach. Others feel like up top of a double decker by comparison

Class were industry comfort benchmark 20 years ago with the (Renault) 4 point sprung cab and carraro double wishbone axle suspension. Though very effective, it was a very high maintainance design

Deutz dragged themselves into the 20th century about 7 years ago when a totally new and very good design of front axle suspension was introduced. The old system, though very effective, had limited carrying capacity and vertical movement resulted in a lot of driver head nod pitch

In addition to the excellent suspension, what really sets the valtra comfort higher than others (in my opinion) is the extremely well thought out spacious cabin which is filled with intuitive positioning of the controls

You never knock the wrong lever or button reaching for another. Vision is wonderful to the sides, up top to a loader, and especially to the front, especially in this day and age of huge engine bonnets and tyres. The forward seating position makes the pickup hook invisible other than in the mirror (which is totally unobtrusive other than when needed, please note Mr. New Holland). However hooking up to the long lift arms is no bother, and the seat swivel lever is perfectly positioned to prevent even having to strain around looking over your shoulder

Engines while wonderfully torquey, do like drinking on the job, even after a remap....

Anyway, what was this thread about? I've probably wandered quite far off topic by now? 🙄
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
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Northumberlandia
The geometry of valtra front suspension, and position of the seat relative to the centre of pitch is near perfect (means is not like sitting on a bucking bronco). Air bags are standard on 6 cylinder (optional on 4) and make it like riding in an executive coach. Others feel like up top of a double decker by comparison

Class were industry comfort benchmark 20 years ago with the (Renault) 4 point sprung cab and carraro double wishbone axle suspension. Though very effective, it was a very high maintainance design

Deutz dragged themselves into the 20th century about 7 years ago when a totally new and very good design of front axle suspension was introduced. The old system, though very effective, had limited carrying capacity and vertical movement resulted in a lot of driver head nod pitch

In addition to the excellent suspension, what really sets the valtra comfort higher than others (in my opinion) is the extremely well thought out spacious cabin which is filled with intuitive positioning of the controls

You never knock the wrong lever or button reaching for another. Vision is wonderful to the sides, up top to a loader, and especially to the front, especially in this day and age of huge engine bonnets and tyres. The forward seating position makes the pickup hook invisible other than in the mirror (which is totally unobtrusive other than when needed, please note Mr. New Holland). However hooking up to the long lift arms is no bother, and the seat swivel lever is perfectly positioned to prevent even having to strain around looking over your shoulder

Engines while wonderfully torquey, do like drinking on the job, even after a remap....

Anyway, what was this thread about? I've probably wandered quite far off topic by now? 🙄
Am sold must get one on demo they sound better than a fendt dare i mention it
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
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Northumberlandia
The geometry of valtra front suspension, and position of the seat relative to the centre of pitch is near perfect (means is not like sitting on a bucking bronco). Air bags are standard on 6 cylinder (optional on 4) and make it like riding in an executive coach. Others feel like up top of a double decker by comparison

Class were industry comfort benchmark 20 years ago with the (Renault) 4 point sprung cab and carraro double wishbone axle suspension. Though very effective, it was a very high maintainance design

Deutz dragged themselves into the 20th century about 7 years ago when a totally new and very good design of front axle suspension was introduced. The old system, though very effective, had limited carrying capacity and vertical movement resulted in a lot of driver head nod pitch

In addition to the excellent suspension, what really sets the valtra comfort higher than others (in my opinion) is the extremely well thought out spacious cabin which is filled with intuitive positioning of the controls

You never knock the wrong lever or button reaching for another. Vision is wonderful to the sides, up top to a loader, and especially to the front, especially in this day and age of huge engine bonnets and tyres. The forward seating position makes the pickup hook invisible other than in the mirror (which is totally unobtrusive other than when needed, please note Mr. New Holland). However hooking up to the long lift arms is no bother, and the seat swivel lever is perfectly positioned to prevent even having to strain around looking over your shoulder

Engines while wonderfully torquey, do like drinking on the job, even after a remap....

Anyway, what was this thread about? I've probably wandered quite far off topic by now? 🙄
Pal has a T194 remapped to around 280hp runs v sweet he says & much better tractor than his 820claas was & it was remapped to similar hp.
uses less diesel than the claas did also. plus its had adblu delete..... weither thats right long term who knows.
 

Boo-Boo

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Livestock Farmer
The geometry of valtra front suspension, and position of the seat relative to the centre of pitch is near perfect (means is not like sitting on a bucking bronco). Air bags are standard on 6 cylinder (optional on 4) and make it like riding in an executive coach. Others feel like up top of a double decker by comparison

Class were industry comfort benchmark 20 years ago with the (Renault) 4 point sprung cab and carraro double wishbone axle suspension. Though very effective, it was a very high maintainance design

Deutz dragged themselves into the 20th century about 7 years ago when a totally new and very good design of front axle suspension was introduced. The old system, though very effective, had limited carrying capacity and vertical movement resulted in a lot of driver head nod pitch

In addition to the excellent suspension, what really sets the valtra comfort higher than others (in my opinion) is the extremely well thought out spacious cabin which is filled with intuitive positioning of the controls

You never knock the wrong lever or button reaching for another. Vision is wonderful to the sides, up top to a loader, and especially to the front, especially in this day and age of huge engine bonnets and tyres. The forward seating position makes the pickup hook invisible other than in the mirror (which is totally unobtrusive other than when needed, please note Mr. New Holland). However hooking up to the long lift arms is no bother, and the seat swivel lever is perfectly positioned to prevent even having to strain around looking over your shoulder

Engines while wonderfully torquey, do like drinking on the job, even after a remap....

Anyway, what was this thread about? I've probably wandered quite far off topic by now? 🙄
I’ve got jd and a valtra n174 active . In my opinion the jd is miles ahead of the valtra for front suspension . When the valtra has weight on the back then it travels lovely whereas the jd just works regardless. The valtra has great power ,when you touch the foot pedal , it just takes off . Unfortunately the valtra suffers from electrical gremlins which seems to be common in the few I know of . Valtra also a lovely loader tractor . Fuel , heavy on hard work but seems decent on lighter work . Adblu seems always excessive compared to jd .
 
New n175 here after a lifetime of NH, seems comfy and nice place to spend a day, agree with comments about the engine, it's not the sweetest when working hard but it seems to pull extremely well
 
I’ve got jd and a valtra n174 active . In my opinion the jd is miles ahead of the valtra for front suspension . When the valtra has weight on the back then it travels lovely whereas the jd just works regardless. The valtra has great power ,when you touch the foot pedal , it just takes off . Unfortunately the valtra suffers from electrical gremlins which seems to be common in the few I know of . Valtra also a lovely loader tractor . Fuel , heavy on hard work but seems decent on lighter work . Adblu seems always excessive compared to jd .

Is yours the air suspended front axle? I was impressed with the ride comfort in the 6 cylinder Valtra but it had cab suspension as well. Not sure if this would make any difference or not. Far more comfortable than the 4 or 6 cylinder offerings from JD In my view.
 

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