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[sidjon]

Your cows don’t drink any water ? Plus you are just talking grain yield not total biomass production.

Water is bore hole or river so recycled rain that falls on field, yes didn't include straw but not used for human consumption, also didn't include calves or cull cow meat, I know it's not 100%

 

[Lowland1]

Water is bore hole or river so recycled rain that falls on field, yes didn't include straw but not used for human consumption, also didn't include calves or cull cow meat, I know it's not 100%

I was working it out and it’s a lot of nonsense anyway. One inch of rain on an acre is about 97 cubic metres of water a dairy cow drinks about 70 cubic metres a year so if you get 40 inches of rain per acte thats about 50 times more water than your cow is consuming anyway no matter where your water comes from.

 

[Buford T. Justice]

I was working it out and it’s a lot of nonsense anyway. One inch of rain on an acre is about 97 cubic metres of water a dairy cow drinks about 70 cubic metres a year so if you get 40 inches of rain per acte thats about 50 times more water than your cow is consuming anyway no matter where your water comes from.

A lot of the 'data' they use would be from figures coming from indoor systems and equating domestic water consumption from public supplies to water extraction from on farm wells or boreholes. And the total water usage figures used for cattle include the total water requirements used for growing the crops that are used in cattle feed despite the vast majority of that water being rainfall. They prefer to imply that it's all irrigated water used from declining aquifers.

False equivalences are almost compulsory in the comparisons they use.

 

[melted welly]

changes to the gut micro biome, this could be due to taking antibiotics, maybe roundup residues on food or sugar content all of those affect the microbiome, which in turn effects our health and digestive system. Science is only now starting to understand the system.

It is possible that it’s as straightforward as preservatives though? They are designed to inhibit bacterial and fungal activity, thus prolonging shelf life. they don’t turn off when consumed, same for fungicides.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

It is possible that it’s as straightforward as preservatives though? They are designed to inhibit bacterial and fungal activity, thus prolonging shelf life. they don’t turn off when consumed, same for fungicides.

could be right, the best way for the gut to preserve food is through fermentation, things like kimchi, sauerkraut, kefir, and of course Kombucha. Certainly in English speaking cultures we have lost all of the knowledge and habit of those. Although I was given a handful of Yeo Valley Kefir pots at Groundswell, and they tasted lovely, I am not fully convinced they are as good as a home produced variety. I brew my own Kombucha here (no one else seems to like it ~ strange that!).

I think it is probably a combination of, as you say, preservatives and traces of fungicides, roundup and ultra processed food (with too much sugar and carbs).

 

[melted welly]

could be right, the best way for the gut to preserve food is through fermentation, things like kimchi, sauerkraut, kefir, and of course Kombucha. Certainly in English speaking cultures we have lost all of the knowledge and habit of those. Although I was given a handful of Yeo Valley Kefir pots at Groundswell, and they tasted lovely, I am not fully convinced they are as good as a home produced variety. I brew my own Kombucha here (no one else seems to like it ~ strange that!).

I think it is probably a combination of, as you say, preservatives and traces of fungicides, roundup and ultra processed food (with too much sugar and carbs).

Overnight oats made with kefir and a handful of raisins fairly clears out the constitution!

we had some kombucha on the go last year, but only managed about 2 days before something involving a cat let the air in and it went all mouldy

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Overnight oats made with kefir and a handful of raisins fairly clears out the constitution!

we had some kombucha on the go last year, but only managed about 2 days before something involving a cat let the air in and it went all mouldy

I got my SCOBY off ebay

 

[egbert]

Same all over I suspect. Local one I knew of closed quickly and revamped as "wholefood", which seemed a more balanced menu....

Ah...shades of Pratchett, and Gimli's Holefood restaurant. 'Best rat in a bun in town'.