Vegan threat? what vegan threat?

[Still Farming]

If someone becomes a vegan supposedly for environmental reasons, they shouldn’t be flying at all!

They want to calculate thier carbon footprints as being vegan is one thing but their lifestyles and good and bad habits are another ,but they won't tell you that will they???

 

[hendrebc]

This is 4 months old, but I've only just seen it

Airlines told to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing vegan meals
2 May 2019 | by FarmingUK Team | News, Produce, Renewables and Environment
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Vegans have urged airlines to stock 'environmentally-friendly meals' because flying has a 'notorious' reputation for producing emissions
Airlines are being urged to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing a vegan in-flight meal as standard on every flight.


The campaign, launched this week by the Vegan Society and Humane Society, encourages airlines to offer non-meat, non-dairy meals as one of the default options.


Both societies argue that currently, the default meal options provided by most airlines are dominated by meat, dairy and eggs.


Because of this, vegan passengers have to proactively request a vegan meal in advance, the groups say.


lena Orde, Senior Campaigns Officer at the Vegan Society, said: “Adding vegan options to every standard in-flight menu would mean that all passengers can opt for a more environmentally-friendly meal.”


The groups add that because flying has a 'notorious reputation' for producing emissions, providing vegan options 'can be a way of offsetting this environmental impact'.



FFS, how many vegan meals do you need to eat to cancel out a plane flight?

Grass fed steaks would go much further to reduce the flights carbon footprint than a vegan meal. Vegan meals would make it worse they really do have it all back to front

 

[FonterraFarmer]

This is 4 months old, but I've only just seen it

Airlines told to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing vegan meals
2 May 2019 | by FarmingUK Team | News, Produce, Renewables and Environment
2573

Vegans have urged airlines to stock 'environmentally-friendly meals' because flying has a 'notorious' reputation for producing emissions
Airlines are being urged to 'offset carbon emissions' by providing a vegan in-flight meal as standard on every flight.


The campaign, launched this week by the Vegan Society and Humane Society, encourages airlines to offer non-meat, non-dairy meals as one of the default options.


Both societies argue that currently, the default meal options provided by most airlines are dominated by meat, dairy and eggs.


Because of this, vegan passengers have to proactively request a vegan meal in advance, the groups say.


lena Orde, Senior Campaigns Officer at the Vegan Society, said: “Adding vegan options to every standard in-flight menu would mean that all passengers can opt for a more environmentally-friendly meal.”


The groups add that because flying has a 'notorious reputation' for producing emissions, providing vegan options 'can be a way of offsetting this environmental impact'.



FFS, how many vegan meals do you need to eat to cancel out a plane flight?

The last flight I was on , the food was that dire it was one of the few meals that I only had half and gave up..
Had I known, the vegetarian didn't look anywhere near as bad and was served first.

 

[Muddyroads]

There needs to be a very simple message put out there as often as possible: veganism is unsustainable and unethical.

 

[hendrebc]

There needs to be a very simple message put out there as often as possible: veganism is unsustainable and unethical.

The sheeple really have bought this vegan saving the planet bulls**t hook line and sinker. Why they can't see it for what it is I have no idea. The vegan food is much worse than a cow eating some grass. It's ripping up soil at least once a year killing everything that lives in it, spraying to keep the crops healthy and alive and killing God knows what else in the process, chemical fertilizers, a sh!t load of diesel burnt and a sub par protein food at the end of it. Compare that to a well managed cow that eats grass and can breed its own replacement every year. Needs nothing but grass and fertilizer for its own food comes out of its back end. It's the perfect sustainable protein (and everything else a cow makes, milk, leather etc) that is carbon neutral or even sequesters carbon! But I do stress the well managed bit. Otherwise their arguments about methane become valid and we lose our argument.
This was a popular one I found on FB

 

[JP1]

First bit of The Times article (I don't subscribe to get the rest)

Vegetarian rock star Chrissie Hynde says vegan ‘tyrants’ get her wrong
The Pretenders singer, an animal rights campaigner who hasn’t eaten meat for 50 years, locks horns with anti‑dairy protesters
Krissi Murison
September 8 2019, 12:01am, The Sunday Times

Chrissie Hynde supports small dairy farms that work without harming animalsMATT CROSSICK
Undeterred by the feminist furore she whipped up with her rock’n’roll memoir Reckless four years ago, Chrissie Hynde has found a new target for her wrath. The blunt Pretenders frontwoman is fed up with what she describes as the “tyranny” of vegans and their “huge sense of humour bypass”.
As a vegetarian for almost 50 years, Hynde is no stranger to eco-activism and animal rights campaigning. She was once arrested for smearing fake blood on the window of a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant in Paris.
But now she claims to have had enough of vegan radicals “sitting over their computer writing hate mail to people”. She tells The Sunday Times Magazine today: “I would fathom a guess that the vegans have now turned more people…
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[JP1]

National Sheep Association

· 5 hrs ·



Yet again this morning the media has delivered inaccurate information to the general public in its messages that eating less meat and dairy will reduce climate change!
British red meat produced mainly on grass can be argued to be a SOLUTION to climate change, not a cause.

The science behind the messages being put out is not correct and doesn’t differentiate between intensive, grain-fed systems common elsewhere in the world, and the grass-based approach in the UK!
Please share to help spread our message!

 

[Paddington]

The last flight I was on , the food was that dire it was one of the few meals that I only had half and gave up..
Had I known, the vegetarian didn't look anywhere near as bad and was served first.

I was once sat next to a chap on a flight who complained to the stewardess that he couldn't eat the meal (can't remember what it was) as he was gluten intolerant. She came back with a steak. She had already taken my order.

 

[delilah]

National Sheep Association

· 5 hrs ·



Yet again this morning the media has delivered inaccurate information to the general public in its messages that eating less meat and dairy will reduce climate change!
British red meat produced mainly on grass can be argued to be a SOLUTION to climate change, not a cause.

The science behind the messages being put out is not correct and doesn’t differentiate between intensive, grain-fed systems common elsewhere in the world, and the grass-based approach in the UK!
Please share to help spread our message!
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If you click on that link to the NSA fb page, they have in the last hour put out an excellent press release, it should be shared by everyone, it puts the lamentable efforts of the NFU and AHDB to shame as it actually goes on the attack by pointing out the environmental benefits of lamb over soya.

 

[primmiemoo]

The whole NSA Team are gong material, imv.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

I was once sat next to a chap on a flight who complained to the stewardess that he couldn't eat the meal (can't remember what it was) as he was gluten intolerant. She came back with a steak. She had already taken my order.

Jeez, I would have thought you would have had a marmalade sandwich

 

[JP1]

Daily Mail feed:


RSPCA chief is forced to quit after she's exposed as a vegan extremist who is calling for animal rights protesters to shut down London's Smithfield meat market

• Jane Tredgett, 52, co-founded Animal Rebellion - part of Extinction Rebellion
• She has quit unpaid post after organising a two-week protest in central London
• Animal Rebellion hopes 10,000 animal rights campaigners will attend

By GUY ADAMS FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 22:00, 20 September 2019 | UPDATED: 08:40, 21 September 2019


The vice-chairman of the RSPCA has been forced to step down after calling for animal rights protesters to shut down Britain’s top meat market.
Vegan Jane Tredgett, 52, is a co-founder of Animal Rebellion, an offshoot of the Extinction Rebellion environmental movement.
The group says animal agriculture is the leading cause of climate change and insists veganism is the best way to save the planet.
Mrs Tredgett, who has been on the RSPCA’s ruling council for 18 years, quit her unpaid post after it emerged she is among those organising the two-week protest aimed at closing down Smithfield market in central London next month.

Vegan Jane Tredgett, 52, is a co-founder of Animal Rebellion, an offshoot of the Extinction Rebellion environmental movement. She quit her unpaid post after it emerged she is among those organising the two-week protest aimed at closing down Smithfield market in central London next month

Animal Rebellion hopes that 10,000 animal rights campaigners will attend the protest at Smithfield market (pictured) and 'engage in civil resistance to communicate the urgency to end the industries of animal agriculture and fishing'
Animal Rebellion hopes 10,000 animal rights campaigners will attend.

A spokesman said: ‘We need to urgently end the industries of animal farming and fishing, and transition to a plant-based food system in order to avert climate breakdown, mass extinction and ensure justice for farmed animals.’
The group invites supporters to ‘engage in civil resistance to communicate the urgency to end the industries of animal agriculture and fishing.’
Mrs Tredgett, who works in executive training, is in charge of instructing protesters in ‘non-violent direct action’ [NVDA] that will reduce the risk of them being arrested.


A statement from her on social media last month said: ‘I have been asked to co-ordinate the roll-out of NVDA training and am hoping to recruit 150 trainers to help.’
It is signed on behalf of ‘the voiceless creatures we love so much’. Mrs Tredgett, from Hull, has since held a number of training events in the north of England, including a two-hour session in her home city attended by 250 activists.
She has played a prominent role in Animal Rebellion since early July. The pressure group has likened its efforts to shut down meat, dairy and fishing operations to the struggles of US civil rights hero Martin Luther King and the Suffragettes.
It claims the industries are playing a ‘catastrophic role in the climate emergency’ and says the Government should encourage Britons to phase out meat, dairy and fish from their diets and move to a ‘plant-based food system’.

Mrs Tredgett, who works in executive training, is in charge of instructing protesters in ‘non-violent direct action’ [NVDA] that will reduce the risk of them being arrested
Animal Rebellion is a separate organisation from Extinction Rebellion, which will hold protests across cities at the same time as the Smithfield demonstration, but it has signed up to several of its key demands.
These include making the UK ‘carbon neutral’ by 2025 and creating a ‘Citizens’ Assembly’ to decide environmental policy.
At the time Mrs Tredgett decided to take a leading role in Animal Rebellion she was the second-most senior member of the RSPCA Council – an elected group of trustees in charge of the charity’s policy and strategy as well as allocation of its £130million-a-year budget.
Critics have previously claimed the committee is dominated by animal rights extremists, but the charity, which has 1,750 employees, has denied this.
Until this month Mrs Tredgett was also a director of the RSPCA’s ‘Freedom Foods’ offshoot, which certifies animals have been ‘ethically’ farmed.

A statement from her on social media last month said: ‘I have been asked to co-ordinate the roll-out of NVDA training and am hoping to recruit 150 trainers to help’
The RSPCA has strongly denied that Mrs Tredgett holds extremist views. But it announced her departure yesterday after the Daily Mail asked how she squared her roles at the charity with her decision to stage ‘direct action’ protests.
The RSPCA stressed in a statement that she was due to retire from the council later this year.
It said: ‘Jane was due to leave the national council next month as part of wide-ranging reforms to RSPCA governance to refresh and widen representation.
‘She was aware that getting involved with this activity in her private capacity is a divergence from RSPCA policies and offered earlier this month to step down from the council on September 30 before the event takes place, which has been accepted.’
Tim Bonner of the Countryside Alliance, said of the move: ‘The RSPCA has finally admitted what it has denied for decades that there are extremists in controlling positions within the organisation.’
Mrs Tredgett was unavailable for comment.

 

[n.w]

file:///C:/Users/dell/Downloads/WWF%20Footprint%20Calculator.html#/

Might be interested in the first page of this questionaire. this from WWF. what a load of BS sorry not allowing link but on line if interested

 

[AGN76]

Daily Mail feed:


RSPCA chief is forced to quit after she's exposed as a vegan extremist who is calling for animal rights protesters to shut down London's Smithfield meat market

• Jane Tredgett, 52, co-founded Animal Rebellion - part of Extinction Rebellion
• She has quit unpaid post after organising a two-week protest in central London
• Animal Rebellion hopes 10,000 animal rights campaigners will attend

By GUY ADAMS FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 22:00, 20 September 2019 | UPDATED: 08:40, 21 September 2019


The vice-chairman of the RSPCA has been forced to step down after calling for animal rights protesters to shut down Britain’s top meat market.
Vegan Jane Tredgett, 52, is a co-founder of Animal Rebellion, an offshoot of the Extinction Rebellion environmental movement.
The group says animal agriculture is the leading cause of climate change and insists veganism is the best way to save the planet.
Mrs Tredgett, who has been on the RSPCA’s ruling council for 18 years, quit her unpaid post after it emerged she is among those organising the two-week protest aimed at closing down Smithfield market in central London next month.

Vegan Jane Tredgett, 52, is a co-founder of Animal Rebellion, an offshoot of the Extinction Rebellion environmental movement. She quit her unpaid post after it emerged she is among those organising the two-week protest aimed at closing down Smithfield market in central London next month

Animal Rebellion hopes that 10,000 animal rights campaigners will attend the protest at Smithfield market (pictured) and 'engage in civil resistance to communicate the urgency to end the industries of animal agriculture and fishing'
Animal Rebellion hopes 10,000 animal rights campaigners will attend.

A spokesman said: ‘We need to urgently end the industries of animal farming and fishing, and transition to a plant-based food system in order to avert climate breakdown, mass extinction and ensure justice for farmed animals.’
The group invites supporters to ‘engage in civil resistance to communicate the urgency to end the industries of animal agriculture and fishing.’
Mrs Tredgett, who works in executive training, is in charge of instructing protesters in ‘non-violent direct action’ [NVDA] that will reduce the risk of them being arrested.


A statement from her on social media last month said: ‘I have been asked to co-ordinate the roll-out of NVDA training and am hoping to recruit 150 trainers to help.’
It is signed on behalf of ‘the voiceless creatures we love so much’. Mrs Tredgett, from Hull, has since held a number of training events in the north of England, including a two-hour session in her home city attended by 250 activists.
She has played a prominent role in Animal Rebellion since early July. The pressure group has likened its efforts to shut down meat, dairy and fishing operations to the struggles of US civil rights hero Martin Luther King and the Suffragettes.
It claims the industries are playing a ‘catastrophic role in the climate emergency’ and says the Government should encourage Britons to phase out meat, dairy and fish from their diets and move to a ‘plant-based food system’.

Mrs Tredgett, who works in executive training, is in charge of instructing protesters in ‘non-violent direct action’ [NVDA] that will reduce the risk of them being arrested
Animal Rebellion is a separate organisation from Extinction Rebellion, which will hold protests across cities at the same time as the Smithfield demonstration, but it has signed up to several of its key demands.
These include making the UK ‘carbon neutral’ by 2025 and creating a ‘Citizens’ Assembly’ to decide environmental policy.
At the time Mrs Tredgett decided to take a leading role in Animal Rebellion she was the second-most senior member of the RSPCA Council – an elected group of trustees in charge of the charity’s policy and strategy as well as allocation of its £130million-a-year budget.
Critics have previously claimed the committee is dominated by animal rights extremists, but the charity, which has 1,750 employees, has denied this.
Until this month Mrs Tredgett was also a director of the RSPCA’s ‘Freedom Foods’ offshoot, which certifies animals have been ‘ethically’ farmed.

A statement from her on social media last month said: ‘I have been asked to co-ordinate the roll-out of NVDA training and am hoping to recruit 150 trainers to help’
The RSPCA has strongly denied that Mrs Tredgett holds extremist views. But it announced her departure yesterday after the Daily Mail asked how she squared her roles at the charity with her decision to stage ‘direct action’ protests.
The RSPCA stressed in a statement that she was due to retire from the council later this year.
It said: ‘Jane was due to leave the national council next month as part of wide-ranging reforms to RSPCA governance to refresh and widen representation.
‘She was aware that getting involved with this activity in her private capacity is a divergence from RSPCA policies and offered earlier this month to step down from the council on September 30 before the event takes place, which has been accepted.’
Tim Bonner of the Countryside Alliance, said of the move: ‘The RSPCA has finally admitted what it has denied for decades that there are extremists in controlling positions within the organisation.’
Mrs Tredgett was unavailable for comment.

she looks a well fed vegan!

 

[AGN76]

National Sheep Association

· 5 hrs ·



Yet again this morning the media has delivered inaccurate information to the general public in its messages that eating less meat and dairy will reduce climate change!
British red meat produced mainly on grass can be argued to be a SOLUTION to climate change, not a cause.

The science behind the messages being put out is not correct and doesn’t differentiate between intensive, grain-fed systems common elsewhere in the world, and the grass-based approach in the UK!
Please share to help spread our message!
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If you go on to NSA faceache page it says it was National Lamb week 2 weeks ago. Well that's shite, first I've heard of it. Why was that kept quiet?
(Just been to co-op for some leg steaks to take part!)

 

[Muck Spreader]

Daily Mail feed:


RSPCA chief is forced to quit after she's exposed as a vegan extremist who is calling for animal rights protesters to shut down London's Smithfield meat market

• Jane Tredgett, 52, co-founded Animal Rebellion - part of Extinction Rebellion
• She has quit unpaid post after organising a two-week protest in central London
• Animal Rebellion hopes 10,000 animal rights campaigners will attend

By GUY ADAMS FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 22:00, 20 September 2019 | UPDATED: 08:40, 21 September 2019


The vice-chairman of the RSPCA has been forced to step down after calling for animal rights protesters to shut down Britain’s top meat market.
Vegan Jane Tredgett, 52, is a co-founder of Animal Rebellion, an offshoot of the Extinction Rebellion environmental movement.
The group says animal agriculture is the leading cause of climate change and insists veganism is the best way to save the planet.
Mrs Tredgett, who has been on the RSPCA’s ruling council for 18 years, quit her unpaid post after it emerged she is among those organising the two-week protest aimed at closing down Smithfield market in central London next month.

Vegan Jane Tredgett, 52, is a co-founder of Animal Rebellion, an offshoot of the Extinction Rebellion environmental movement. She quit her unpaid post after it emerged she is among those organising the two-week protest aimed at closing down Smithfield market in central London next month

Animal Rebellion hopes that 10,000 animal rights campaigners will attend the protest at Smithfield market (pictured) and 'engage in civil resistance to communicate the urgency to end the industries of animal agriculture and fishing'
Animal Rebellion hopes 10,000 animal rights campaigners will attend.

A spokesman said: ‘We need to urgently end the industries of animal farming and fishing, and transition to a plant-based food system in order to avert climate breakdown, mass extinction and ensure justice for farmed animals.’
The group invites supporters to ‘engage in civil resistance to communicate the urgency to end the industries of animal agriculture and fishing.’
Mrs Tredgett, who works in executive training, is in charge of instructing protesters in ‘non-violent direct action’ [NVDA] that will reduce the risk of them being arrested.


A statement from her on social media last month said: ‘I have been asked to co-ordinate the roll-out of NVDA training and am hoping to recruit 150 trainers to help.’
It is signed on behalf of ‘the voiceless creatures we love so much’. Mrs Tredgett, from Hull, has since held a number of training events in the north of England, including a two-hour session in her home city attended by 250 activists.
She has played a prominent role in Animal Rebellion since early July. The pressure group has likened its efforts to shut down meat, dairy and fishing operations to the struggles of US civil rights hero Martin Luther King and the Suffragettes.
It claims the industries are playing a ‘catastrophic role in the climate emergency’ and says the Government should encourage Britons to phase out meat, dairy and fish from their diets and move to a ‘plant-based food system’.

Mrs Tredgett, who works in executive training, is in charge of instructing protesters in ‘non-violent direct action’ [NVDA] that will reduce the risk of them being arrested
Animal Rebellion is a separate organisation from Extinction Rebellion, which will hold protests across cities at the same time as the Smithfield demonstration, but it has signed up to several of its key demands.
These include making the UK ‘carbon neutral’ by 2025 and creating a ‘Citizens’ Assembly’ to decide environmental policy.
At the time Mrs Tredgett decided to take a leading role in Animal Rebellion she was the second-most senior member of the RSPCA Council – an elected group of trustees in charge of the charity’s policy and strategy as well as allocation of its £130million-a-year budget.
Critics have previously claimed the committee is dominated by animal rights extremists, but the charity, which has 1,750 employees, has denied this.
Until this month Mrs Tredgett was also a director of the RSPCA’s ‘Freedom Foods’ offshoot, which certifies animals have been ‘ethically’ farmed.

A statement from her on social media last month said: ‘I have been asked to co-ordinate the roll-out of NVDA training and am hoping to recruit 150 trainers to help’
The RSPCA has strongly denied that Mrs Tredgett holds extremist views. But it announced her departure yesterday after the Daily Mail asked how she squared her roles at the charity with her decision to stage ‘direct action’ protests.
The RSPCA stressed in a statement that she was due to retire from the council later this year.
It said: ‘Jane was due to leave the national council next month as part of wide-ranging reforms to RSPCA governance to refresh and widen representation.
‘She was aware that getting involved with this activity in her private capacity is a divergence from RSPCA policies and offered earlier this month to step down from the council on September 30 before the event takes place, which has been accepted.’
Tim Bonner of the Countryside Alliance, said of the move: ‘The RSPCA has finally admitted what it has denied for decades that there are extremists in controlling positions within the organisation.’
Mrs Tredgett was unavailable for comment.

I wonder if she imposes her vegan ideology on her 2 dogs. If so, a case of animal cruelty I think?

 

[Veganguy]

I wonder if she imposes her vegan ideology on her 2 dogs. If so, a case of animal cruelty I think?

lol at people like you even having the audacity to talk about animal cruelty when you see the market you are involved in.

 

[Muck Spreader]

lol at people like you even having the audacity to talk about animal cruelty when you see the market you are involved in.

What market is that?

 

[DaveGrohl]

she looks a well fed vegan!

The irony is that in order to obtain sufficient essential nutrients to maintain health vegans have to eat lot more weight of food because it's much less nutrient dense. Potatoes, rice and pasta will make you much fatter than meat ever will.

 

[Lowland1]

I wonder if she imposes her vegan ideology on her 2 dogs. If so, a case of animal cruelty I think?
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Our Dog lives on Pig Pellets. She can run behind the tractor all day when ploughing with no problems