Vegan threat? what vegan threat?
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warksfarmer
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It’s the vegan activists that are the issue, not normal vegans.
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
More worried by the actions of the new Facebook shareholders . Big purges on anyone posting animals for sale. Farmers Free Ads Cattle Shed the latest to get shut down
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- Scottish Highlands
Not a recent change JP, so can’t be blamed on the new (very) minor shareholders, Facebook has always stopped private person to private person animal sales, and it’s their ball so we should play by their rules. Not too difficult to have a business page and sell from that, if you’re a business seller.
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Not quite correct
I have a business page. In fact I've been tempted to do pay for targeted sponsored posts (that just attracted a few antis). I cannot share or tag with a page
Yes it's sort of their rules but the big business type ad portals like Sell My Livestock can still pay to advertise on there
I would imagine the recent clampdown has been bots identifying key words and antis reporting things
I had heard PETA had bought shares in facebook ?
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- Scottish Highlands
Yeah,that jobs always been up and down.......I’ll get my coat...
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Here's another one:
Timberline FarmLike Page
July 27 at 5:24 PM ·
Big changes on social media recently and, well, it’s got this farmer a bit worried. Instagram stopped showing like counts and Facebook is blocking posts directly selling meat. Now, the change on Instagram doesn’t worry me, in fact it levels the playing field for all users with followings big and small, but the changes on Facebook, they do quite the opposite. Small farmers like myself depend on social media for a voice to a public who listens. Facebook has taken a stance to support animal rights, and their algorithms now decide which posts do that and which don’t. Anyone that knows me knows I am an animal rights activist and the way I raise cattle is a direct statement that if we are going to put meat on our plates then it is our moral obligation to produce it in a way that treats the animals it comes from with respect and compassion and that we must extend those same values to the land on which they are raised. Farmers like me recognize that a farm is an ecosystem, not just another resource to be consumed. In nature ecosystems are made up of bacteria, fungi, plants and, without exception, animals living together in harmony with their environment. But Facebook algorithms don’t see that and lump farmers like me in with the ethical and environmental disaster that CAFOs (concentrated animal feeding operations, commonly known as ‘factory farms’) have come to represent. When I look at my cows I see many things, I see animals with rights and feelings, I see the keystones of an environmentally regenerative ecosystem and, yes, I see meat. But if my farm gets lumped in with CAFOs and my voice for change is silenced then farmers like me will face an even greater struggle to carve out our tiny market share from the giant shadow of a dystopian system of industrial meat production. It is when our voice grows louder, something which social media can enable if it allows it, that the market power of CAFOs will shrink and be forced to adapt to the demands of an enlightened world. So please, like, share, follow, and subscribe to your small, local farmers because with your support we can make a real difference in making this world a better place for people and animals alike.
Pheasant Surprise
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The more people that finally, finally wake up to the fact that Facebook is an amazingly manipulative media company the better.
Why even support them. f**k them off. Completely.
Why even support them. f**k them off. Completely.
Northeastfarmer
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Absolute pile of dross
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- north Wales
Veganuary went well anyway....
primmiemoo
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It's now a familiar sight to see branded and own brand specialist vegan ranges of food taking up considerable space in the reduced price shelves at supermarkets. Often, the packs have several reductions stickers on them.
That's a sign that vegan products are becoming more popular, not less. Simple base-rate representative sampling.
primmiemoo
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Northeastfarmer
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- Cleveland
Reduced because no fudger wants them
Simple?
If something appears to be happening more frequently it's usually due to statistical probability rather than being indicative of a negative trend.
More BMW drivers seem to display poor driving because there are so many BMWs on the road, not because people who drive BMWs are inherently poor drivers.
A Boeing 737 or Airbus A320 is statistically more likely to be involved in an accident than any other aeroplane type, but that's because those aeroplane types make up the majority of the aeroplanes in the air at any given moment. It's not a sign that they are more dangerous.
More vegan foods are appearing in the reduced price sections because retailers are stocking increasing volumes and ranges of these products, not because they aren't selling at all. The reduced section is a representative sample of what is selling well in a supermarket, since supermarkets aren't in the business of stocking SKUs which don't sell.
Northeastfarmer
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Seems odd business to me....if I had a shop and I sold 200 steak pies a day and 50 cabbage pies a day I’m not going to reduce the steak pies
There are two explanations. First is that many products have very high gross margins, so it is good business sense to overstock these items - you can't sell it if you run out of stock, but equally the high gross margins means that discounting the product has little or no effect on the bottom line. If it is a high volume product that also has a high gross margin then the discounts are even less of a concern, since the margin on the 80% of your stock holding you sold at retail price means you can afford to give the rest away almost.
The other is unpredictable demand. Meat products are particularly susceptible to this too. A few weeks ago the reduced section in our local morrisons was jam-packed with steaks, burgers and sausages. Was this an indication that the "meat fad" had come to an end? No, I suspect it was because the barbeque weather which had been predicted that weekend turned into torrential downpours and lightning storms - therefore no bugger was firing up the charcoal polluters!
primmiemoo
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That's very interesting. So since new vegan ranges were introduced, either the negative comments I've heard about hyper-processed vegan gloop weren't representative of the shop's customers, or the tiny customer base for vegan foods was absent for some reason.