Veganism - controlled malnutrition?

[llamedos]

Veganism has been described as “controlled malnutrition” by the President of the Irish Cattle and Sheep Farmers’
The humble Tomato in the 1940is said to have had as much nutrition as 8 of todays, can this be true?

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/veganism-is-controlled-malnutrition/

 

[Farfrae]

Cobblers of course with not a single bit of evidence to back anything up. Just as much sense to say omnivours are 'controlled obesity'

 

[Exfarmer]

The humble Tomato in the 1940is said to have had as much nutrition as 8 of todays, can this be true?

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/veganism-is-controlled-malnutrition/

Completely true, they never had those mini cherry tomatoes then.
Dont know what my mother would have thought of slicing up one of todays for a salad, I suspect a bit of grumbling

 

[awkward]

well if vegans can make false claims or exaggerated facts about farm production then pot kettle black

 

[ollie989898]

If it is all the same to you, I won't be taking dietary advice from the President of the Irish Cattle and Sheep Farmers Association any time soon if I am honest.

I am not certain as to what constitutes the best diet today but I can tell you Britons are living longer than people did here 500 years ago and suffer less premature death from malnourishment so I would say that even a diet of fast food is not all that lethal.

 

[tinsheet]

If it is all the same to you, I won't be taking dietary advice from the President of the Irish Cattle and Sheep Farmers Association any time soon if I am honest.

I am not certain as to what constitutes the best diet today but I can tell you Britons are living longer than people did here 500 years ago and suffer less premature death from malnourishment so I would say that even a diet of fast food is not all that lethal.

Ever watched "supersize me", bloke lived of nothing but McDonalds for several weeks, scary the changes in his health.

 

[ollie989898]

Ever watched "supersize me", bloke lived of nothing but McDonalds for several weeks, scary the changes in his health.

In 1200 AD Britain, you would do well to live until you were 40.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Vegans always look whiter than Casper, Ill and miserable

 

[czechmate]

My daughter has been vegan for over a year. She isn't wasting away, she looks well and her complexion (she's a teenager) is much better.
Eating is a bit of a drag when she spends Easter, the summer with us but mrs cz does very well at cooking something we can all eat. So I had 5 weeks of the summer with no meat and can't say I was lacking energy, in fact the opposite could almost be true.
We don't engage in debate, I grow beef after all, but on ethical grounds for eg, I didn't understand why she wouldn't eat mrs cz's hens eggs, the hens live a life of Riley, no cruelty involved at all in those eggs. So why not eat them.

 

[Cowcalf]

has Lois Hamilton not just joined them, and I would think he is very fit

 

[Raider112]

My daughter has been vegan for over a year. She isn't wasting away, she looks well and her complexion (she's a teenager) is much better.
Eating is a bit of a drag when she spends Easter, the summer with us but mrs cz does very well at cooking something we can all eat. So I had 5 weeks of the summer with no meat and can't say I was lacking energy, in fact the opposite could almost be true.
We don't engage in debate, I grow beef after all, but on ethical grounds for eg, I didn't understand why she wouldn't eat mrs cz's hens eggs, the hens live a life of Riley, no cruelty involved at all in those eggs. So why not eat them.

So are you saying your cattle are treated cruelly?

 

[czechmate]

So are you saying your cattle are treated cruelly?

Absolutely not. But to eat meat they have to die. Nothing dies to eat our eggs - there is no cockerel even, so no life in the egg at all.

 

[ARW]

This is as bad as the vegans spouting off, leave them to it!

 

[Raider112]

has Lois Hamilton not just joined them, and I would think he is very fit

He's doing it for ethical reasons is he not? The man who drives superfast cars and travels the world in planes says he wants to save the planet!

 

[smcapstick]

Humans as a species only matched the health and strength of the early bronze age man after WW2.

A hunter/gather diet and lifestyle is as healthy as can be. Wild, fibrous grains and lean meat coupled with tremendous levels of exercise, spending each night on clean ground (so little or no disease).

Still, give me a double cheeseburger and cruise control any day.

 

[Philip Watkins]

He's doing it for ethical reasons is he not? ....

That's what he is reported to have said but as someone on the other thread put it, he's doing it because he's tupping a vegan super model.

 

[Tarw Coch]

That's what he is reported to have said but as someone on the other thread put it, he's doing it because he's tupping a vegan super model.

The ethics of getting his end away.

 

[multi power]

If the Good Lord had designed man as a vegan they would have have been made with a rumen

 

[Tarw Coch]

If the Good Lord had designed man as a vegan they would have have been made with a rumen

And they wouldn't have canine teeth.
Mankind has evolved as omnivores, anything else is a lifestyle choice.

 

[Pasty]

Absolutely not. But to eat meat they have to die. Nothing dies to eat our eggs - there is no cockerel even, so no life in the egg at all.

Every hen you have had a brother though (statistically). What happened to him? You can see their point.

Let's face it, industrial meat production is utterly disgusting and the less people eating meat the better as far as I can see and I say that as, I suppose, a meat farmer. Farming has segregated meat here and crops there to the point where everyone and everything loses.

I'll find a market for the meat I raise but if not, I'll raise enough for me and grow carrots or something. The whole system is massively f**ked up and I can totally see why people are going vegan.