Versadrill vrs Sumo dts

[sandersonT2]

Sorry if this has been covered, we were thinkin, of moving away from plough based cultivations but as a mixed farm grass is an important crop for us to establish. We like the look of a sumo dts but don’t feel it would be very good at grass ley establishmen. Would a versadrill If one can be found be better at been able to establish grass wheat oats and beans directly without prior cultivation’s?
thoughts greatly received.

 

[GeorgeK]

We have a Versadrill but it's a heavy brute with wide (166mm) row spacing and I wouldn't use it for grass. Good for wheat but beans seem to prefer a tine drill. Grass is worth some light cultivation for levelling and mixing trash in, and best seeded with a grass harrow type drill or broadcast in my opinion

 

[Mark C]

We have a versadrill. Use it for DD grass no problem.

 

[sandersonT2]

When did grass do do one pass or two? Legs down or up.
i like the look of the dts drill but feel the versa may handle grass better and leave a smoother finish, or is it a case that like a hay bob dual purpose means not very good at either?

 

[Mark C]

Legs up. Leaves it nice and firm. 3m had enough weight to penetrate very well. Itlaian I do one pass. Timothy or perennial I cross drill . I am looking for a wider one if you are looking for a nice 3m with less than 1000ha on the trip. They are really underated drills. Sumo didn't really push them as it was a bit of a stop gap whilst they developed the DTS.
Will drill into ploughed, min tilled or zero tilled ground.

 

[shelly reynolds]

Couldn't get it to close the slots properly when we tried one, crows had a field day, there are better drills to be had. Rapid did a good job on DDing grass

 

[Pumba]

@Mark C @GeorgeK I have just bought a versadrill, where do you get spares from? Sumo didn't seem to bothered

 

[Mark C]

Never had a problem via my sumo dealer tbh