Vets /Doctors

[Yale]

Marry a vet and you will never need to visit a doctor again. Obviously you don't get a lot of sympathy but we have lots of ketamine.

Our agronomist has married a vet.

He cut his head badly so went to A+E.After X amount of hours waiting he went home without being seen and his wife administered local anaesthetic and used the thinnest stitches she had to close the wound.

Looked a tidy job.

This is what healthcare in the UK has come to.

 

[Will Blackburn]

Yes but now the kids are here my fear is she’s planning to keep me as a teaser

Didn't anticipate you hadn't run for the hills!

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Our agronomist has married a vet.

He cut his head badly so went to A+E.After X amount of hours waiting he went home without being seen and his wife administered local anaesthetic and used the thinnest stitches she had to close the wound.

Looked a tidy job.

This is what healthcare in the UK has come to.

Years ago I fell and cut my temple open while the vet was here for Mel's horses. He cleaned me up and stitched it for no charge.

 

[Lowland1]

Our agronomist has married a vet.

He cut his head badly so went to A+E.After X amount of hours waiting he went home without being seen and his wife administered local anaesthetic and used the thinnest stitches she had to close the wound.

Looked a tidy job.

This is what healthcare in the UK has come to.

My wife’s father was a surgeon and he got tired of the local nurses leaving bits and pieces in patients so from the age of 14 she would go to work with him and assist in operations in the holidays or evenings. Obviously the NHS don’t allow that kind of on the job training but it’s worked well for her. However if you have an argument before bedtime it’s best to sleep with one eye open.

 

[Dry Rot]

Excellent NHS service here also. In fact, the routine inspections were so routine I had to protest. Still checking up on symptoms that appeared pre-covid and have not appeared since. Checking blood pressure again today, but thankfully there are now fewer as I have pointed out that they have all returned negative and I have had similar symptoms over the decades that have all turned out to be nothing! I am grateful for the thoroughness but there is a limit! High blood pressure can be normal in some people and unscheduled bleeding can be no worse than a nose bleed. The universal cure on my youth was 'watchful waiting' and a regular diagnosis of 'growing pains'. We survived!

 

[traineefarmer]

The NHS is utterly broken, based on model that hasn't evolved around the modern world. Reform and throwing more money at it simply isn't going to work. The only fix I can see is to start again from scratch using influence from the best the rest of the world has to offer.

The NHS is far from free, with the average tax payer contributing around £1100 per year to it.

I was talking to a South Korean lady whose daughter goes to a swim class with mine. She loves the UK but can't figure how such a wealthy, developed country can have an almost non-functioning health service. S. Korea is mostly private with mandatory insurance and top-ups for major ops, but you can see a doctor within hours of making an appointment and treatment the same week in hospital if necessary. That's better than that the private sector in the UK can manage in a country with a far higher population density.

 

[teslacoils]

Interesting that the UK has more drs per head of population than South Korea then.

 

[Longlowdog]

@traineefarmer no-one said it was free but it is far from costing us what it actually costs. There's a reason our cost side of things is called National Insurance...we pay in the hope we don't need it and pay for it to be there when we do. The costs associated with my illness must be close to what I've paid and I ain't dead yet.
The NHS isn't broken it is abused. Having seen the scandalous behavior in E.R on a Friday and Saturday night, with drunks and junkies tying up doctors, nurses and surgeons till the dawn breaks, having watched kids being sat in there for scrapped knees and parents of teething infants demanding something be done it obvious that people create problems. Is it too much to expect the population to keep paracetamol, band aid, Calpol etc at home to avoid the ludicrous situation of doctors filling a nine quid prescription for paracetamol? When you insure your farm you don't phone the insurance for staples to repair your fence.
Covid undoubtedly screwed things up, some folk have been let down, however, doctors, nurses, surgeons all have the right to work in a safe environment, to work without fear of taking a bug home to kill their family and it is to their credit that the whole system didn't fall apart and leave the dying in the streets.

 

[jellybean]

Marry a vet and you will never need to visit a doctor again. Obviously you don't get a lot of sympathy but we have lots of ketamine.

When we were both working on a dairy unit in Saudi Arabia life was pretty stressful and I got to the point one day in the parlour I was vomiting blood and collapsed. Probably a combination of actual stress and heat stress. Got back to the house and a doctor was called. Lets just say he was foreign. He filled a syringe with something and was about to inject me. Wife, who is a vet, took the bottle and read the label, grabbed the syringe and threw him out of the house. I did recover, obviously.

 

[traineefarmer]

@traineefarmer The NHS isn't broken it is abused. Having seen the scandalous behavior in E.R on a Friday and Saturday night, with drunks and junkies tying up doctors, nurses and surgeons till the dawn breaks, having watched kids being sat in there for scrapped knees and parents of teething infants demanding something be done it obvious that people create problems. Is it too much to expect the population to keep paracetamol, band aid, Calpol etc at home to avoid the ludicrous situation of doctors filling a nine quid prescription for paracetamol? When you insure your farm you don't phone the insurance for staples to repair your fence.

This goes to my point of the NHS not evolving to the modern world. At its post war inception, the British public had a great deal of personal responsibility. Today there is none and to far too many promoting the NHS as being "free" opens it to exactly the abuse you mention.

Why go to Boots for some Savlon and paracetamol when the benevolent NHS will give it for free?

Step 1 to sorting out our health service - Charge £25 per GP visit and £50 at the A+E.

 

[Princess Pooper]

Recently managed to get a bad cut on my thigh climbing into a calf pen, metal weld was broken. Down to local minor treatment unit at GP surgery at 5.30 pm. Seen within 5 minutes, 3 separate nurses had a look at it and all concluded it would need sutures. 40 mins after entry I was out, tetanus jabbed, 6 stitches, antibiotic prescription in hand.

 

[Lowland1]

@traineefarmer no-one said it was free but it is far from costing us what it actually costs. There's a reason our cost side of things is called National Insurance...we pay in the hope we don't need it and pay for it to be there when we do. The costs associated with my illness must be close to what I've paid and I ain't dead yet.
The NHS isn't broken it is abused. Having seen the scandalous behavior in E.R on a Friday and Saturday night, with drunks and junkies tying up doctors, nurses and surgeons till the dawn breaks, having watched kids being sat in there for scrapped knees and parents of teething infants demanding something be done it obvious that people create problems. Is it too much to expect the population to keep paracetamol, band aid, Calpol etc at home to avoid the ludicrous situation of doctors filling a nine quid prescription for paracetamol? When you insure your farm you don't phone the insurance for staples to repair your fence.
Covid undoubtedly screwed things up, some folk have been let down, however, doctors, nurses, surgeons all have the right to work in a safe environment, to work without fear of taking a bug home to kill their family and it is to their credit that the whole system didn't fall apart and leave the dying in the streets.

When the NHS was founded it’s budget was the equivalent of £ 16 billion about a tenth of what it costs today. It’s oversubscribed and always will be whilst people think it’s free.

 

[fermerboy]

Once you get into the system the NHS is very good.
But just now it's a disaster trying to see a GP, practically impossible, everybody locally says the same and are wondering what the hell the doctors are actually doing.
It's fob off, and phone NHS 24 or 999 if need be, and they wonder why A & E is swamped.
Our vets have been here right through the worst of lockdown, never an issue, bit tricky trying to keep 2m distance pulling a big calf out the side exit, but everybody just got on with it. Can't fault them.
That said I'd be quite happy to be examined by some of our vets........

 

[teslacoils]

All will change when the generation that refuses to die is replaced by the generation who don't want to spend forever in a home.

 

[Lowland1]

When we were both working on a dairy unit in Saudi Arabia life was pretty stressful and I got to the point one day in the parlour I was vomiting blood and collapsed. Probably a combination of actual stress and heat stress. Got back to the house and a doctor was called. Lets just say he was foreign. He filled a syringe with something and was about to inject me. Wife, who is a vet, took the bottle and read the label, grabbed the syringe and threw him out of the house. I did recover, obviously.

When we were managing farms in the Sudan my business partner got an infected hand from Nile water getting into cuts when putting in irrigation pipelines. Our Sudanese fixer ‘Ali’took him to a doctor in the local village. Ali told the doctor to be very careful with the white man however the doctor gave his hand a vigorous squeeze my friend gave a shout and Ali punched the doctor laying him out.

 

[kiwi pom]

This goes to my point of the NHS not evolving to the modern world. At its post war inception, the British public had a great deal of personal responsibility. Today there is none and to far too many promoting the NHS as being "free" opens it to exactly the abuse you mention.

Why go to Boots for some Savlon and paracetamol when the benevolent NHS will give it for free?

Step 1 to sorting out our health service - Charge £25 per GP visit and £50 at the A+E.

I think its about $50 here now to see the Doctor, for children its free. We don't exactly live in the busiest part of NZ but I've always been able to get a same day appointment. Doctors having to actually see patients to make money means they're always keen.
I believe it takes more than an ouchy finger or sore tooth to get past the triage nurse at A&E, those cases are told to see their doctors.

 

[wrenbird]

If you've Got an ouchy finger or a sore tooth here, the triage nurse at the GP surgery tells you to go to A&E....

 

[Longlowdog]

The biggest threat to public safety would be charging 25 quid for a doctor visit or 50 quid for A+E as there are still regrettably folk for whom that would be too much. Yes there are dole dossers but there are also folk who fall through the benefits system. I've been there in my youth. Often it is decent folk who aren't trained in manipulating the system or strong enough/obnoxious enough enough to make their case heard.
On a holiday across the pond I was out shooting with my mate when his son phoned and said he felt ill. It chills me to this day when I think of his father's reply. He said 'are you sure you're really sick, we don't have 200 bucks spare just now'. I'd dread to think of anyone having to say anything similar to that to their child in this country.

 

[kiwi pom]

The biggest threat to public safety would be charging 25 quid for a doctor visit or 50 quid for A+E as there are still regrettably folk for whom that would be too much. Yes there are dole dossers but there are also folk who fall through the benefits system. I've been there in my youth. Often it is decent folk who aren't trained in manipulating the system or strong enough/obnoxious enough enough to make their case heard.
On a holiday across the pond I was out shooting with my mate when his son phoned and said he felt ill. It chills me to this day when I think of his father's reply. He said 'are you sure you're really sick, we don't have 200 bucks spare just now'. I'd dread to think of anyone having to say anything similar to that to their child in this country.

I don't know the details of it but I think if you're on benefits or in financial difficulty you don't pay here but might be wrong.

I remember slicing my hand open when I lived in the states, went to hospital, first question "can you pay" when I gave my insurance details and proved I could I was whisked inside and patched up by a doctor and 2 nurses, tetanus shot, stiches, nothing was too much trouble, come back for a check up and the stiches out (did that bit myself)
I asked what would happen if I had no insurance, they said I wouldn't be sitting there talking to them without getting a big bill first.

 

[Kidds]

Mum needed a doctor, a fortnights wait for a phonecall, no help. Admitted to hospital in a bad way, given a drip until it caused a heart attack through neglect. Once onto the heart ward she actually got good treatment but the local GP and the intake ward on A&E are worse than a vet would give. I have not much more than complete contempt for them and the GP is my bloody neighbour!