Vets no longer working in outlying area

[ollie989898]

Do you know the route he is doing this on please, is it training on the job or has the doing 5 years at vet school?
thank you
FJ

You can PM me for a discussion on this if you so wish. EDIT: it will still require the 5 years at vet school.

 

[som farmer]

started 'school job experience' l think, then vet tech, college day release, TB tester, now college, but still does some vet tech now, so more training on the job.
bloody good lad.

 

[som farmer]

The bar is set very high for a reason. Medicine is not hugely complex as a subject- believe me, my friend is doing cellular and molecular science and showed me her work and it was well off the page compared to anything I have done.

The reason medicine, veterinary or even things like law or engineering require such stiff UCAS tariffs is because the Universities want to see a demonstration that the candidate can stick the required academic workload. A levels these days are not crazy crazy difficult (even though attempts have been made to make them so by introducing University level content), but to get AAA in two/three sciences and maths would mean the student has to work hard, consistently over time to achieve those grades. I've looked at recent A level papers in the past and reckon I would probably scrape a C grade in many subjects with a little bit of effort. But that is of no use to University- they don't want evidence I'm bright enough to study the course, they want to see that I am willing and able to sit and study enough to be able to absorb the mass of content they are going throw at me over the next few years.
When I get time, over the summer, and for those who are interested, I will post my own creation in the form of a lecture on medical content on TFF so people can see it- I'll do it as part of my revision so it will be useful for me. It's not conceptually difficult, it just volume that is the challenge really. It'll be the same for Vets and I bet law and engineering is much the same.

l always thought vet training was harder, because the animals can't tell you their symptons

 

[ollie989898]

l always thought vet training was harder, because the animals can't tell you their symptons

There is no way I could study what my wife has nor do what she does. I've been out on calls with her in the dead of night before, it is almost the reverse of the medical world- everything I do is within the scope of an entire team of people and there are several safety nets in places around each patient. A vet in the field is a vet in the field, that is your lot. In fact, I reckon my wife would be 10 times the doctor I could ever be.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Unless it’s farming

In which case it’s 10 years too late too start the real brain washing...

 

[ollie989898]

In which case it’s 10 years too late too start the real brain washing...

I understand the farming syllabus is 3 modules: Fendt, Claas and cattle at age 5, by 8 or 9 it's mostly practical work.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

I understand the farming syllabus is 3 modules: Fendt, Claas and cattle at age 5, by 8 or 9 it's mostly practical work.

6 months - 5years; Sheep
5-10 years; sheep plus machinery
10 years plus; above plus cattle.

driving as soon as your feet reach the pedals.

 

[SteveHants]

The bar is set very high for a reason. Medicine is not hugely complex as a subject- believe me, my friend is doing cellular and molecular science and showed me her work and it was well off the page compared to anything I have done.

I've got a mate who is, I suppose the opposite of the village idiot, studied biochem at Oxford and is now doing something with nanopores or something - he had a bit to do with the COVID vaccine development.

He always tries to chat to me about it at social events, on the basis that I'm a lecturer who broadly operates in the biological sciences. Especially after a few beers, I am well into "nod and smile" territory when he talks.

 

[tepapa]

l always thought vet training was harder, because the animals can't tell you their symptons

And they need to learn about many different species all slightly different from the next with different illnesses that affect them in different ways. Oh and different drugs to give to the different animals at different dosages to cure different problems .

 

[Lowland1]

6 months - 5years; Sheep
5-10 years; sheep plus machinery
10 years plus; above plus cattle.

driving as soon as your feet reach the pedals.

My wife used to help her Dad from the age of about 13 it’s not just farmers who try and push their kids. Why the NHS don’t do a bring your child to work day I don’t know.

 

[tepapa]

My wife used to help her Dad from the age of about 13 it’s not just farmers who try and push their kids. Why the NHS don’t do a bring your child to work day I don’t know.

It would probably help with staffing numbers if kids turned up to help

 

[ollie989898]

My wife used to help her Dad from the age of about 13 it’s not just farmers who try and push their kids. Why the NHS don’t do a bring your child to work day I don’t know.

Confidentiality. Health and safety. Infectious diseases. I agree though that more effort should be made to recruit young people (i.e school leaver age).

 

[Lowland1]

Confidentiality. Health and safety. Infectious diseases. I agree though that more effort should be made to recruit young people (i.e school leaver age).

I was being sarky I doubt anyone would be too keen to hear that the surgeon let his daughter remove their appendix. For the record she was there to count swabs and clamps apparently my father in law got a bit fed up when his nurses couldn't remember if there were six or seven swabs in the patient.

 

[M-J-G]

I reckon my course was in excess of 60% female. Not that it matters, I do believe women generally make better professionals anyway.

Unfortunately that is often balanced out by females disappearing off the job for extended periods to have a family.

 

[penntor]

Phoned my vet this morning for some Alaymicin LA for treating foot rot etc. Got told I would have to pay an out of hours fee even although I was collecting it ( vets open today for small animal work).
Ended up paying an extra £25 'out of hours visit to surgery' fee even although they were open. No wonder farmers are leaving them for another practice.

 

[farmer james]

You can PM me for a discussion on this if you so wish. EDIT: it will still require the 5 years at vet school.

Thank you you have answered the question in that it is still the 5 years at Vet School As I thought.
FJ

 

[Pigken]

l always thought vet training was harder, because the animals can't tell you their symptons

Tale from one of Scottish Islands, vet and doctor on Isle were at logger heads as to who most most challenged in their work and who was most intelligent etc.
Vet went to doctor unwell and sat in silence, after a little while of Doctor questioning vet, with no response,
Vet turned to doctor and said, non of my patients are able to communicate with me. Now who has most difficult job.

 

[Lowland1]

Tale from one of Scottish Islands, vet and doctor on Isle were at logger heads as to who most most challenged in their work and who was most intelligent etc.
Vet went to doctor unwell and sat in silence, after a little while of Doctor questioning vet, with no response,
Vet turned to doctor and said, non of my patients are able to communicate with me. Now who has most difficult job.

Obviously the first thing the doctor should have done was check the temperature in the same way a vet would do that would have got a response pretty sharpish. After that I doubt he’d have needed to check his eyes and tongue and coat before having an internal check.

 

[puppet]

Tale from one of Scottish Islands, vet and doctor on Isle were at logger heads as to who most most challenged in their work and who was most intelligent etc.
Vet went to doctor unwell and sat in silence, after a little while of Doctor questioning vet, with no response,
Vet turned to doctor and said, non of my patients are able to communicate with me. Now who has most difficult job.

So when a farmer calls that vet I presume he just tells them there is a cow in the crush and heads off for a coffee? Don't think the vet has never asked me some questions about the animal.
However, a vet has a wider array of skills from diagnosis to surgery which is not the case for doctors who have specialist roles. I do hear of some vets now who only want to do consultations

 

[Timbo]

I was visiting Uni. Bristol vet school and apparently most abattoir vets will be foreign as the UK ones see it as being somehow "beneath them"..

They already are.