Vicon Tedder leaving grass in rows

[Haytime]

I’m running a vicon fanex 524 Tedder this year. It’s leaving the grass in rows almost like a wuffler. I’ve tried speeding up/slowing down the pto and forward speed. Changed where I’m driving over the rows but still can’t get it to distribute properly.

Anyone got and ideas on how to make the grass lye evenly across the field? Customers are complaining about it now too

 

[Werzle]

Probably just arent going slow enough, watched a krone do the same last year and it was just more angle and fast walk speed to get it perfect. First pass when the grass is heavy just needs a very slow forward speed imo

 

[milkloss]

You’ll get this with a hay bob in light cuts.

 

[8100]

Would the top link be too far pitched back giving the grass a shorter time in the air maybe making it gather up like you describe .
A daft answer i know

 

[Boohoo]

Are crops light? Does how dry the grass is make a difference? Can you move the tines on a Vicon like you can on a Lely? Is the machine too flat, do you need to drop the wheels and shorten the top link?
Difficult to know the answer without seeing it running.

 

[Drillman]

Our Lely will do the same if trying to go too fast in thick crops.

Only solution is less speed.

 

[Haytime]

Are crops light? Does how dry the grass is make a difference? Can you move the tines on a Vicon like you can on a Lely? Is the machine too flat, do you need to drop the wheels and shorten the top link?
Difficult to know the answer without seeing it running.

Crops quite heavy, it’s mostly hay it’s working. Yes the wetter the crop is it seems to be worse, but even hay which is almost ready still seems to be left in rows. Got the top link set as per the manual. Going to try adjusting the rotor pitch tomorrow see if that helps. Currently in the middle. Will try increasing the rotor pitch angle first.

Started off driving at roughly 5k have now sped up to see but still not difference. Going to try going even slower tomorrow.

 

[Scribus]

I’m running a vicon fanex 524 Tedder this year. It’s leaving the grass in rows almost like a wuffler. I’ve tried speeding up/slowing down the pto and forward speed. Changed where I’m driving over the rows but still can’t get it to distribute properly.

Anyone got and ideas on how to make the grass lye evenly across the field? Customers are complaining about it now too

Work at an angle to the rows, that way you disrupt them rather than just disturb them.

The first pass should be slow forward speed but fast pto, that way the stems get teased out from each other. I find the drier the crop the more it tends to row up, and when it lands in nice tidy lines all stood up, then it's probably about ready for baling.

 

[sanderzo]

Put your top link in a different hole on machine to steepen the angle which should throw the grass up higher and spread it better, our krone was doing a bad job until we did that

 

[Boohoo]

Crops quite heavy, it’s mostly hay it’s working. Yes the wetter the crop is it seems to be worse, but even hay which is almost ready still seems to be left in rows. Got the top link set as per the manual. Going to try adjusting the rotor pitch tomorrow see if that helps. Currently in the middle. Will try increasing the rotor pitch angle first.

Started off driving at roughly 5k have now sped up to see but still not difference. Going to try going even slower tomorrow.

Every tedder will row up hay that is nearly ready to bale, but I'd expect wetter, fresh grass to spread wider than the tedder. Generally I have the rotors at the steepest angle for fresh grass and move them to a more level position as the crop dries. I'll also increase forward speed as it dries. Can't help with the specifics of a Vicon tedder unfortunately as I've never used one.

 

[Hillside]

What revs are you doing?
We got a new vicon 784 and had the same problem with grass when it got drier,spoke to the dealer and advised to up revs from 460-80 up to 540 and it certainly made a difference.

 

[bravheart]

Could never get my haybob to spread evenly always left in rows, turned out mower is the wrong width.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Crops quite heavy, it’s mostly hay it’s working. Yes the wetter the crop is it seems to be worse, but even hay which is almost ready still seems to be left in rows. Got the top link set as per the manual. Going to try adjusting the rotor pitch tomorrow see if that helps. Currently in the middle. Will try increasing the rotor pitch angle first.

Started off driving at roughly 5k have now sped up to see but still not difference. Going to try going even slower tomorrow.

I never go over 4K on the first pass

 

[Werzle]

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Could never get my haybob to spread evenly always left in rows, turned out mower is the wrong width.

I have spread two swathes from a drum mower and split 10ft swathes both with a haybob and its spread ok , first pass with a haybob or tedder needs to be done using slower forward speed ,higher pto speed and more aggresive angle than tedd number two or three. Once you have got it lumpy it will get worse every time you turn/tedd it.

 

[Martin Holden]

Interesting post. Over the years I’ve heard so many folk say the hooked tine is best for even spreading but the truth is all tedders can “row” pre spread material from time to time as others have commented. The angle of the rotors, pto speed and working at an oblique angle can all help mitigate the OP’s comments. With the heavy crops this season, correct set up will be key.

 

[Boohoo]

Interesting post. Over the years I’ve heard so many folk say the hooked tine is best for even spreading but the truth is all tedders can “row” pre spread material from time to time as others have commented. The angle of the rotors, pto speed and working at an oblique angle can all help mitigate the OP’s comments. With the heavy crops this season, correct set up will be key.

Correct set up is always the key. Last week I was told that you can't make hay with a tedder, you need a haybob to make hay. 3 different contractors have tedded grass for this man with probably 4 or 5 different tedders from various manufacturers but none of them ever changed wheel or top link settings.

 

[Martin Holden]

Correct set up is always the key. Last week I was told that you can't make hay with a tedder, you need a haybob to make hay. 3 different contractors have tedded grass for this man with probably 4 or 5 different tedders from various manufacturers but none of them ever changed wheel or top link settings.

Yup, it’s easy just to stay in the cab and carry on. Rakes are the same. Fine tuning makes a world of difference

 

[Pistonbroke]

We bought a used Lely 600combi that was traded in for separate machines because the owner said it was crap at both jobs. The paint was still in the holes for the height adjustment and the tines had never been moved for rowing ( been hitting the gates).

 

[Deutzdx3]

Sounds simple but make sure the firs tedd after cutting goes through the correct rotor. This is where width of mower matched to tedder does help. If you don’t get the first tedd done right, it’s makes hard work for the remaining tedds. 524 are a decent little tedder, get the angle as inverted as possible to allow it to flick high. As mentioned. Slower is better to clean more product away in fist tedd. [emoji106]

 

[davidroberts30]

I’m running a vicon fanex 524 Tedder this year. It’s leaving the grass in rows almost like a wuffler. I’ve tried speeding up/slowing down the pto and forward speed. Changed where I’m driving over the rows but still can’t get it to distribute properly.

Anyone got and ideas on how to make the grass lye evenly across the field? Customers are complaining about it now too

Is it not throwing it wide enough or is it throwing it too wide and each pair of rotors the grass is hitting leaving the row in between