Vicon tedder like a lely cock phesant

we had a cock pheasant back in the 70's but cant remember much about it other than it was nightmare to reverse in transport position and a sales guy for the local Burgess store said farmers seem to think they are cultivators
 

colhonk

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
The fan ted was a brilliant piece of kit. on long heavy grass it used to have a conditioning effect as well............BUT... as soon as the rubber belting got older and flexed too much it needed to be replaced with new belting as the tines bent backwards too much and did not pick up as well. ( I know,I was that farmer who had one in the day;))
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
We had a couple of fan teds, the early ones the. Wheels were forever breaking off, but thought generally did a very good job. Never had a cock pheasant as the early ones could not throw under which was good as it left wet lumps exposed on top, we used Allis chalmers who I think were made by Jones. Then a Bamford side rake for rowing up which was an awful machine as it roped the hay. Later learned to put the tedder through after to leave a much better row for the baler.
We made up to 300 acres a year so it was a fairly intense operation and a lot of little bales, I dont think there were many on the farm sorry to see a silage machine appear
 
The Vicon Lely Fan Ted never had the sales volume of the Blanch( British) Lely Cock Pheasant, certainly not in the UK anyway. I started working in 1968 for Blanch Lely which was there trading name at the time. The Vicon Fan Ted had quite heavy tines bolted to a heavy Belting this made its Tedding action rather more violent in action which farmers with clover in there grass mixtures were not always happy with. The down side to the Cock Pheasant was the long tines for windrowing 2 swathes into 1. Where the crop was cut with a flail mower which was considered the way forward in the Late 60's it was difficult to make a clean job as the shorter length of the dry crop would tend to drop through the tines. Enter the Golden Pheasant which was called that because of its yellow windrowing doors. This then improved the windrow ready for the baler considerably. In the the photo of the Fan Ted you will see that it is fitted with removable doors for windrowing 2 rows into 1. Another some what little used idea was that the gearbox on the Cock Pheasant could reverse the rotor to change the crop flow from travelling over the rotor and through under the hood to just a back kick flicking action, from memory I can't remember it this reverse action was possible on Fan Ted. The Cock Pheasant was a copy of the Jones 2 row Tedder of simular design. Thousands were made over the product run of in excess of 9 years latterly at the new British Lely factory at Wootton Bassett near Swindon where I was based working as demonstrator and service engineer. The Vicon Lely Fan Ted was built in Maasland in Holland and distributed by Vicon Farm Machinery who were based in Ipswich.
Wasnt there a hen pheasant also?
Presumably it was just a smaller version?
 

Mrs Brown

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Orkney Islands
WE had a Bental tedder single row and that had reverse to throw the grass underneath, most around here had the bamford wuffler but our thoughts were it was too small a drum/canopy and didn't set it up as well as the bental but was easier on tines as they were like a coiled ice cream cone iyswim.
 

Roy_H

Member
Oh no its now 23:45, l am sitting up in bed browsing the internet with my phone and l see a thread on TFF that talks about The Lely Cock Pheasant. Now l will be having nightmares! :(
 

DeeGee

Member
Location
North East Wales
The Vicon Lely Fan Ted never had the sales volume of the Blanch( British) Lely Cock Pheasant, certainly not in the UK anyway. I started working in 1968 for Blanch Lely which was there trading name at the time. The Vicon Fan Ted had quite heavy tines bolted to a heavy Belting this made its Tedding action rather more violent in action which farmers with clover in there grass mixtures were not always happy with. The down side to the Cock Pheasant was the long tines for windrowing 2 swathes into 1. Where the crop was cut with a flail mower which was considered the way forward in the Late 60's it was difficult to make a clean job as the shorter length of the dry crop would tend to drop through the tines. Enter the Golden Pheasant which was called that because of its yellow windrowing doors. This then improved the windrow ready for the baler considerably. In the the photo of the Fan Ted you will see that it is fitted with removable doors for windrowing 2 rows into 1. Another some what little used idea was that the gearbox on the Cock Pheasant could reverse the rotor to change the crop flow from travelling over the rotor and through under the hood to just a back kick flicking action, from memory I can't remember it this reverse action was possible on Fan Ted. The Cock Pheasant was a copy of the Jones 2 row Tedder of simular design. Thousands were made over the product run of in excess of 9 years latterly at the new British Lely factory at Wootton Bassett near Swindon where I was based working as demonstrator and service engineer. The Vicon Lely Fan Ted was built in Maasland in Holland and distributed by Vicon Farm Machinery who were based in Ipswich.

So you will probably remember the Lely Anylevel and Stackhy bale elevators then? The Anylevel had a slatted conveyor like the Lister, whereas the Stackhy had a central chain and wooden block system.

What about the Vicon Acrobat or was that made by the opposition?
 

essexpete

Member
Location
Essex
The Vicon Lely Fan Ted never had the sales volume of the Blanch( British) Lely Cock Pheasant, certainly not in the UK anyway. I started working in 1968 for Blanch Lely which was there trading name at the time. The Vicon Fan Ted had quite heavy tines bolted to a heavy Belting this made its Tedding action rather more violent in action which farmers with clover in there grass mixtures were not always happy with. The down side to the Cock Pheasant was the long tines for windrowing 2 swathes into 1. Where the crop was cut with a flail mower which was considered the way forward in the Late 60's it was difficult to make a clean job as the shorter length of the dry crop would tend to drop through the tines. Enter the Golden Pheasant which was called that because of its yellow windrowing doors. This then improved the windrow ready for the baler considerably. In the the photo of the Fan Ted you will see that it is fitted with removable doors for windrowing 2 rows into 1. Another some what little used idea was that the gearbox on the Cock Pheasant could reverse the rotor to change the crop flow from travelling over the rotor and through under the hood to just a back kick flicking action, from memory I can't remember it this reverse action was possible on Fan Ted. The Cock Pheasant was a copy of the Jones 2 row Tedder of simular design. Thousands were made over the product run of in excess of 9 years latterly at the new British Lely factory at Wootton Bassett near Swindon where I was based working as demonstrator and service engineer. The Vicon Lely Fan Ted was built in Maasland in Holland and distributed by Vicon Farm Machinery who were based in Ipswich.
Thank you for that piece of Ag history. What (if any) was the link between Blanch (British) Lely and Vicon Lely?
 

bearplant

Member
Location
north shropshire
I remember using a fan ted behind a David Brown 880 or sometimes a power magor, one thing I recall is every now and then getting hit by a stone if the ground was a bit undulating, kept you awake as you never knew when they were coming.
 

gaura

Member
i used ours this year ,rowing up for our round baler ,it made lovely uniform bales which were tight as i could set it exact width for the pick up reel.i also have a rake and the bales turned out better hands down with the fan ted. We are not big farmers doing big acerage so i had the time .
 

mf298

Member
The Cock Pheasant was a lump of a thing, and used to throw the Dexta around on any field which wasn't flat but twice as quick (literally!) as the old Wuffler which was mind numbingly slow. The Flying Pheasant was an option for Majors or 4000's or 165's as they were three point hitched.
flying pheasant used to make a nice tidy row for baling. Well fluffed up as well. Just a pain if you had narrow gates as you had to take it off tractor and mount in transport position.
 

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