Victoria Prentis at NFU Tenants Conference!

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Yet more examples of the proposed ELMS fiasco in the Farmers Weekly today, could they make it any more complicated & difficult to police?
Of course monitoring all these new rules & regs will cost a fortune but you can be sure the government have already thought of this & hey presto there is always that NFU backed organisation RED TRACTOR that they can get to handle the job of making sure we all obey!
This will of course cost an awful lot but then RT could simply increase their membership costs & if farmers do not comply RT can always suspend their membership, it would be a win win for the government.
I hope all you farmers financing the NFU to screw us over in league with the government & are participating in ELMS trials will not come on here crying crocodile tears when it all goes pear shape.
 

hally

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Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
But it is not a case of the cut off being above what people want, it's about the cut off being at a level that enables a family to make a start in farming, all farmers would be entitled to this base amount & large farmers would in fact be better off than what is being proposed at the moment & still be able to do the ELMS projects they are at the moment considering.
At least with this DEFRA have a fighting chance of the majority of farmers getting involved in ELMS in one way or another!
I’ve made many posts both at the time and since about the ridiculous stance by many large farmers on what you are proposing.
I even remember bringing it up at NFU meetings and Guy smith said “ everyone wants the cut off to be just above what they receive” made a joke of it and killed any constructive conversation dead.
It is a common NFU ploy to deflect critics, years ago I had a breakfast meeting ( handy for us livestock guys) with the then NFU national chairman at the time ( an arable farmer). I brought up the fact that support for hill farmers had been eroded due to NFU influence when government did away with a whole load of support and nobody at the NFU fought this . He responded by making a joke saying that hill farmers would just waste it on land rovers and moved the converstation on, sadly I was not confident enough to challenge him.
Then the NFU were representative of the big boys then and nothing has changed, anybody who does try to participate from the grass roots are either ignored or squeezed out.
 

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
It is a common NFU ploy to deflect critics, years ago I had a breakfast meeting ( handy for us livestock guys) with the then NFU national chairman at the time ( an arable farmer). I brought up the fact that support for hill farmers had been eroded due to NFU influence when government did away with a whole load of support and nobody at the NFU fought this . He responded by making a joke saying that hill farmers would just waste it on land rovers and moved the converstation on, sadly I was not confident enough to challenge him.
Then the NFU were representative of the big boys then and nothing has changed, anybody who does try to participate from the grass roots are either ignored or squeezed out.
The NFU haven't been a "national" farmers union for an awful long time, it looks after it's paymasters & should drop the NFU name as this is misleading!
 
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Spencer

Member
Location
North West
It may surprise you that membership of the NFU has increased over the last couple of years!
The largest increase has been from Wales.
Probably because there are more second homes in wales than anywhere else in the country except the Lake District! Then the good lifers who buy their second home want to feel part of the country so join the NFU and buy a chicken...........! :X3:
 

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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