Virtual Ploughing Tuition

[Howard150]

what? A dog?

 

[arcobob]

what? A dog?

Yeah. One that can drive straight preferably

 

[Petetheploughman]

Does anyone on here use to yl 42's for match work? If not, why not? Most people seem to use 44's are they the best?

I use yl 42's, 44's, 56's, 57's and 61's and get on rather well with all of them no matter the conditions. Usually I use 42's in turf or stony conditions. The only ones I don't get on with is the yl 40.

 

[Dealer]

Ah light bulb moment get one from the dead school will help you find the food wagon as well ?

 

[arcobob]

Ah light bulb moment get one from the dead school will help you find the food wagon as well ?

That is where you are normally pictured collecting your "prize". ?

 

[massey765]

what? A dog?

yea.........bleddy big one ta stop all the people stoppin ta distract me

 

[Cordiale]

I use yl 42's, 44's, 56's, 57's and 61's and get on rather well with all of them no matter the conditions. Usually I use 42's in turf or stony conditions. The only ones I don't get on with is the yl 40.

Thanks for your info Pete. Are 61's almost identical to 44's? If so the only ones that you mentioned that I haven't used, are the 56's. Mind you I am talking commercially not match. What do 56's look like?
I always liked 57's best.

 

[Ford4610]

I was wondering what is the advantage of longer lift links and top link bracket. This is on Simon Witty's setup.

 

[Ley253]

Well, in mine and Dons case, pushing the plough back has opened up the rear of the tractor, things are not so cramped there. You can also see the front disk and furrow easier, so following the mark is no longer guesswork! Lift height is also increased. Down side is needing more weight on the front of the tractor.

 

[Ford4610]

Well, in mine and Dons case, pushing the plough back has opened up the rear of the tractor, things are not so cramped there. You can also see the front disk and furrow easier, so following the mark is no longer guesswork! Lift height is also increased. Down side is needing more weight on the front of the tractor.

Makes sense. Some amount of possible modifications now unlike years ago.

 

[Ley253]

Dont think tractor mods have ever been banned bit of a minefield.

 

[arcobob]

Thanks for your info Pete. Are 61's almost identical to 44's? If so the only ones that you mentioned that I haven't used, are the 56's. Mind you I am talking commercially not match. What do 56's look like?
I always liked 57's best.

61s are identical in shape to 44s but thinner and thus penetrate with less disturbance but wear out quicker.

 

[Howard150]

I was wondering what is the advantage of longer lift links and top link bracket. This is on Simon Witty's setup.

massive difference. Put 1200 lower links on my 780. People have been doing it for years.
it also changes the way the plough reacts which might mean winding a bit sooner. It will let the plough run straighter. You will get far better weight transfer but as some on here so rightly say you might need some front end weight.
I originally based my logic on ploughing thousands of acres with a Super Major. Got used to it and went well. After that most other tractors seemed hunched up with a plough on the back. Internationals are the worst of the lot.

 

[Ley253]

Hunched up? Brilliant description. so , so true!

 

[Ford4610]

Would have to see the difference. Probably would be an advantage for the chip. Athough front disc could get caught underneath the lift arm. Keeps the front disc away from the hitch too I suppose.

 

[Cordiale]

massive difference. Put 1200 lower links on my 780. People have been doing it for years.
it also changes the way the plough reacts which might mean winding a bit sooner. It will let the plough run straighter. You will get far better weight transfer but as some on here so rightly say you might need some front end weight.
I originally based my logic on ploughing thousands of acres with a Super Major. Got used to it and went well. After that most other tractors seemed hunched up with a plough on the back. Internationals are the worst of the lot.

Are you saying Interationals would benefit from longer links, Dave? If so do you weld bits in or use longer
ones?

 

[Petetheploughman]

massive difference. Put 1200 lower links on my 780. People have been doing it for years.
it also changes the way the plough reacts which might mean winding a bit sooner. It will let the plough run straighter. You will get far better weight transfer but as some on here so rightly say you might need some front end weight.
I originally based my logic on ploughing thousands of acres with a Super Major. Got used to it and went well. After that most other tractors seemed hunched up with a plough on the back. Internationals are the worst of the lot.

You may think an International is hunched up. You should try a Nuffield 4/65! The hydraulic arm lifters on the top cover become part of your elbows.

 

[arcobob]

David the "Bishop" told me to use DB lift arms but I actually bought some Fergie arms. I never used them but can well see the logic behind all this. I would have had to alter the top link mounting and re-align plough winders(or grow longer arms myself) so I never got round to it.

 

[Ley253]

Are you saying Interationals would benefit from longer links, Dave? If so do you weld bits in or use longer
ones?

Not international, but for what its worth, I extended the arms on my leyland by welding in a 6" length of flat bar.

 

[Cordiale]

So 6 inches makes a lot of difference, doesn't sound much. Do you have to use a longer top link or alter the mounting bracket on the plough?