Virtual Ploughing Tuition

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Not allowed to in our class, just run the top link as long as I dare to clean it out as best as I can, helps if lower board edges are a smidgen higher than the share wing tip and a good set of worn boards with a straight lower edge.
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
They will plough just as well as genuine if clean and well shiny, in general nothing wrong with them,

However if in land that is a bit sticky, they will stick before genuine will stick,
That's where the problem is,

but remember boards are like shoes, their never comfortable till their about worn out, and that is the same with genuine boards,
I have a set of new BK 69, and 2 pair of new YL183, all genuine, yet old worn boards will plough better, it takes time to get flow up the board, and this is with both genuine and reproduction ones,
 

mike.l

Member
Location
london ontario
(Hardly surprising as a Nuffield 4 has 36" wheels and a 3 has 28" I think )
well that sounds as it would be the case but all newer hyd arms on nuffield are 35 " but the ones on the petrol models seem to be the only ones that are 37 " ( another bit of useless info from me to file somewhere ) mike
 

wuddy

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
Can any of you chaps on here tell me how a repro YL 183 ploughs compared to a genuine board, please?
I had two sets of reproduction boards! Neither were the same shape as genuine (less twist in them)! I still have a set and they go pretty well but just can’t get the final overall look as nice as the genuine ones leave! Both the repro and genuines were brand new and have done about the same amount of work, maybe it’s just me but the genuine ones just seems to put a little bit nicer finish to the job, maybe it is simply down to the fact the soil flows off them better!
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
I had two sets of reproduction boards! Neither were the same shape as genuine (less twist in them)! I still have a set and they go pretty well but just can’t get the final overall look as nice as the genuine ones leave! Both the repro and genuines were brand new and have done about the same amount of work, maybe it’s just me but the genuine ones just seems to put a little bit nicer finish to the job, maybe it is simply down to the fact the soil flows off them better!
I had some non genuine boards and after two years I changed to genuine. You only had to run your hand over each in turn and the difference in the drag on each was enormous. I admit that some pattern boards seem better than others.
 

wuddy

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
Bobby Douglas won the British nationals on none genuine boards, but he was unsure who made them
Bobby bought four boards kept two and sold the other two to the late paddy Robertson (kieth Robertson’s father). They practiced together quite a lot and paddy’s boards would never work the same and he changed to genuine in the end. Paddy’s plough is now in the hands of James Magnay, he bought it off Alec Irvine!
 

Cordiale

Member
Having read a few of your comments, I need to ask if any of you have a set of genuine 183's you want to sell. The plough I bought has got repro's on it!
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
Bobby bought four boards kept two and sold the other two to the late paddy Robertson (kieth Robertson’s father). They practiced together quite a lot and paddy’s boards would never work the same and he changed to genuine in the end. Paddy’s plough is now in the hands of James Magnay, he bought it off Alec Irvine!
bobby said he did not know who made them, you any idea David who made them ?
 

wuddy

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
bobby said he did not know who made them, you any idea David who made them ?
No I don’t, really all happened before my time only through conversation with bobby that I found out. YL’s hadn’t really been heard of in this area until bobby came back from the British and decided he needed to get a plough with yl’s to compete at that level, up until that point he ploughed with epics. Bobby was a great inspiration to me and set the benchmark that I am still trying achieve, he had a belief that one day I would make it to the top! I just wish I had the time to put in that is required to be at the top consistently, but I enjoy every match I get to and a wins always a nice bonus!
 

Howard150

Member
Location
Yorkshire
I had two sets of reproduction boards! Neither were the same shape as genuine (less twist in them)! I still have a set and they go pretty well but just can’t get the final overall look as nice as the genuine ones leave! Both the repro and genuines were brand new and have done about the same amount of work, maybe it’s just me but the genuine ones just seems to put a little bit nicer finish to the job, maybe it is simply down to the fact the soil flows off them better!

Nope it’s not just you David. Let me tell you a story. been told before. Went all the way to Norfolk down to KT Dennison’s as he had 800 genuine TCN Kristeel boards. Got there and they were all left hand. Nipped up to Holt And got a pair of spurious from Kongskilde.
absolute rubbish. Would not scour. Too soft as went round and over things rather than doing what they were supposed. The work never looked polished and was dragged apart ins futher in. Outs further out. Holes in the work. Ploughed a couple of seasons before finding a pair of genuine and bringing the plough back to life.
Had exactly the same with RWM’s. Could not get them any brighter with standard discs. Dragged the work out just the same. Took them off and left them aside for a couple of seasons. Aggrieved at having spent a lot buying them then I decided to look for some better abrasives. Just by chance the guy from my local welding supplies had a new line to sell. Klingspor ACT ceramic abrasives. Never looked back. Once bright then the boards will plough. don’t waste your money on spurious boards. They are only fit for commercial work.
 

arcobob

Member
Location
Norfolk
When I started aged 61 I had a grey fergie and a Robin plough with Epics. A trip to Weslake and I converted it to YL183s, non genuine. I was not a complete novice but whatever I did this plough always pulled hard. Experienced men tried to help but nobody could put a finger on it. I was not happy with the work so I bought some genuine YL165s . Next season I qualified for the Nationals for the first time and the plough pulled as though I had taken a furrow off. The pattern boards would take a shine under certain conditions but as soon as you ploughed anything abrasive they returned to grey.
Speaking of Bobby Douglas, the year he won the Nationals was my first National, the first (possibly) at Crockey Hill. He had completed his plot in good time and was walking down the line with a big grin on his face. By the time he got to me I had just finished also and his grin got bigger, not because my plot was little more than poor but because I had finished the wrong way(one and only time). He stopped and we chatted and along came dear old Derek Hockley who was a steward. He said "I am going to have to dock you 20 points" to which I replied "I think you had better because the whole world has noticed".
 
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wuddy

Member
Location
Scottish Borders
When I started aged 61 I had a grey fergie and a Robin plough with Epics. A trip to Weslake and I converted it to YL183s, non genuine. I was not a complete novice but whatever I did this plough always pulled hard. Experienced men tried to help but nobody could put a finger on it. I was not happy with the work so I bought some genuine YL165s . Next season I qualified for the Nationals for the first time and the plough pulled as though I had taken a furrow off. The pattern boards would take a shine under certain conditions but as soon as you ploughed anything abrasive they returned to grey.
Speaking of Bobby Douglas, the year he won the Nationals was my first National, the first (possibly) at Crockey Hill. He had completed his plot in good time and was walking down the line with a big grin on his face. By the time he got to me I had just finished also and his grin got bigger, not because my plot was little more than poor but because I had finished the wrong way(one and only time). He stopped and we chatted and along came dear old Derek Hockley who was a steward. He said "I am going to have to dock you 20 points" to which I replied "I think you had better because the whole world has noticed".
He had a right to be smiling! He ploughed an absolute cracker of a plot, right from opening to finish there weren’t many plots that day in the vintage mounted that looked as good as Bobby’s! @Howard150 Did you win the British that year as well?
 

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