Brexits going to be wonderful, when Nissan and Toyota go we're starting our own car industry, 10 years from now the whole of Europe will be driving an alegro or maybe a Morris something all electric of course designed by our great brexit patriot Mr Dyson from his office in Singapore. We're leaving the European space agency so we can make our own satellite's maybe launch a manned space ship to somewhere. When Airbus start to wind down we're going to build the biggest and best planes in the world, I could go on. why would we need Europe
Voices on Brexit
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wanton dwarf
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If you were a vulture you'd not be posting far Left rhetoric.
You're just another jaded Left wing NPC .. attempting to force your failed Communist idealism on the majority.
Anyone in doubt about Marxism just has to look at the starving people in Venezuala to see where your politics will get the UK.
Even with the chaos of Brexit marxist Corbyn continues to lose votes .. that's because he's useless, slightly better than Diane Abbot though .. well TBH I haven't seen him use numbers either.
Old McDonald
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Hi there,
Me and two other girls are doing a school project called ‘‘Analysing different motives of Brexiteers‘‘.(We are from Germany and have do this in order to get our A-levels.) One topic of our project is ‘‘Voices on Brexit‘‘, there we want to write the stories of people who voted in favour of brexit. So if you voted ‘leave‘ please tell us why.(Reasons, hopes, expectations, maybe disappointments, if u regret your vote or are still happy with it...) Basically we would like to hear your story and everything you have experienced since Brexit! If you like, you could tell us your age, gender and country/state you are from. If you want to stay anonymous just write it with your story and we will accept it.
( We have to mention our source in the project, which means we will link this page)
We are looking forward to hear your Voice on Brexit!
The following quote by this Devil character is like the rest of his posts rather inaccurate. I only asked what people's expectations were. You can read mine and several others on that thread. I did not ask people why they voted one way or the other.
I voted out in the first referendum and had been opposed to the EC since the Treaty of Rome. The idea of Germany leading a group of other European countries towards "an ever closer union" as that Treaty declared was something that troubled many people who knew about it. The Treaty was 122 years after the end of WWII. The equivalent time after WWI was 1930. Ponder on that.
Britain is not part of Europe, never has been and never will be. For financial reasons some UK citizens want to remain as part of the EU. In the second referendum a small, but significant, majority decided otherwise.
You can see by the post #20 by @uztrac that he was the same as an enormous number of other people at the time of the first referendum and did not realise that by voting to remain in he was voting for the inevitable "ever closer union" that is still the mantra of the EU. The UK was already a member at the time of the first referendum and the vote was whether to remain in or get out. There was an overwhelming majority to remain. I believe that was because the general population was not sufficiently informed and thought they were only voting to remain part of a trading deal. The ballot paper at the time even referred to the embryonic Federal State of Europe as the Common Market.
The Tories do seem to be doing a wonderfully job all right with there dup buddies, well excluding the brexit fiasco, the crumbling nhs, the record homeless figures, the soup kitchens, the schools with falling standards, the army being gutted of manpower and equipment, trillions borrowed, just peachy.
wanton dwarf
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Well Corbyn will fit right in with the DUP then .. I'm surprised he's not invited them into the Labour Party.
Of course if everything you say is true .. then people must REALLY hold Corbyn in low regard by refusing to vote for the racist terrorist supporter.
I mean just look at Venzuala .. nothing to fear at all is there.
Devil_0101
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Yes, actually they are located in Asia. What can i say. Regards.
wanton dwarf
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Devil_0101
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At the present moment, the EU does not have any kind of referendum, because the EU is an union of sovereign nations. At the least do inform yourself before you vote what are you voting for. Regards.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/06/brexit-google-search-trends-tech/
"In the wee hours of Friday morning, the people of the UK voted to leave the European Union with a majority of 52 percent—and according to Google, they don't really know why. Two hours after the referendum polls closed, roughly midnight UK time, the Google Trends Twitter account reported a 250 percent increase in people searching "what happens if we leave the EU." "Are we in or out of the EU?" spiked by 2,450 percent."
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And that’s exactly why I blame the politicians- both the MEPs and our own. The average man in the street isn’t well informed about politics, he/she is reliant on their politicians picking up on the public mood, and designing policy that reflects it. However, the EU refuses to listen, and our own politicians claim impotence due to EU supremacy (partly, just an excuse for idleness). The bottom line is- a government that ignores public opinion is a failure.
Devil_0101
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Yes but, your last line, you know that deal was rejected in UK even before it was given to the EU, in a video farage itself took some distance from TM, he said something like "actually nobody would have accepted a such deal" if i remember well, but the point is that deal was never sent, so what the EU has to listen or answer to?
I do not think the EU did not listen you for the past 50 years, and your meps are still there, 72 of them, so what "impotence due to the EU supremacy" your meps are claiming when there are so many of them?
They just cannot anymore make some decent deals like those meps who were there before than the ones you have now. Actually most of your meps do nothing but calling the EU in the parliament itself a "mafia" or a "gangster" that's what they do. Not to mention comment such "you have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk" and breaking someone else speech with a "really loud laugh" that even without the microphone the whole room could listen.
Then someone wonders why the EU apparently is running out of patience.
You are brexit, the only thing, according to the laws, the EU has to listen to now, it is if you want to revoke the article 50, or if you want to have some agreements. The EU has propose you some, i quoted them in here. But none of the above your govern has said something. Regards.
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Yes, British MEPs share the blame.
Whatever; it is clear that over half the population of this country are not comfortable with the EU, and that suggests to me that the EU is failing to properly represent it’s citizens. Again, I would emphasise that it’s not only the British public that have concerns.
What is the purpose of a governing authority, if it is not to represent society? Should the authority only be concerned with the interests of its own political elite? Should it be purely self serving?
As an aside, I would also suggest that It does nothing for the EU’s credibility, that no auditor is prepared to sign off the accounts!
I googled “Kinnock family gravy train”. It is worth reading if you want to understand where some of the EU sceptism comes from.
wanton dwarf
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We just had an EU referendum and you've done nothing else but comment on it.
You are a human and not a gold fish I presume ?
Do you often talk to Google ? I suggest that you go seen a psychiatrist .. sounds to me as though you have serious issues.
Of course millions of people didn't vote .. but lets just ignore them because it doesn't fit your agenda.
Devil_0101
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No, you had it 3 years ago, i did not comment only your referendum, actually i have said it is no use because the brexit has already happened, and i'm commenting in the proper forum for it.
Explain to me this, if they went to vote what would have happened? Do you know what they wanted to vote for? I do not think so. Regards.
wanton dwarf
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I already stated EXACTLY what I thought.
Seeing as you DO have the memory of a goldfish .. I said that Asian vote would give the EU 1 vote.
There, fixed it for you again.
Devil_0101
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Dude, the vote in the EU do not work the way you say. Want me to quote you that too? Regards.
Bomber_Harris
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erm, nope, I thought I'd already put you straight on this. I was born and brought up in one of the most affluent and true blue Tory parts of London. For over 30 years I've voted Tory in every election going both locally and nationally. However, I will never ever vote Tory again, at least not in a GE, and especially not for this shower of sh!t. We're supposed to the party of sanity, the party for business, yet we've completely fudged ourselves and the country all for the sake of appeasing to the geriatric element of the party who don't like foreigners. The only thing saving the Tories is the unbelievably good fortune the leader of the Labour party happens to be a socialist bordering on commie nutjob along with McDonnell and Abbott. They are totally unelectable especially Abbott, Labour should have disconnected her from the mains a long time ago, and it's the Tories good fortune that they haven't. If Labour were to replace Corbyn et al with the likes of Starmer, Cooper etc the Tory Party will be completely and utterly fudged. As things stand I'm politically homeless, if a GE was called tomorrow I'm not voting for anyone. In all my years I've never known a time when I've had equal contempt for both the govt. and the opposition of the day. And if you think I'm the only Conservative that feels this way then you are totally and utterly deluded and living in a bubble
You must agree pretty much then with my earlier post on another thread here. Not a lot to choose from right now.
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Have to confess, I’m of a similar view. I think political parties are outdated; surely we’re more grown up now? Things seem a lot less rowdy with a coalition.
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wanton dwarf
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Tory .. Gammon .. Geriatric .. Business .. Foreigners ..
All symbolic of Left wing comments you would see in The Guardian, Independant, Huffington Post etc
Every generation has their reasons for disliking various things .. so for example we will remember the Iraq & Afghanistan wars, mass rape of white children and Islamic Terrorism .. to totally disregard others opinions purely based on their age ? That's not how a democracy works .. disregarding others opinions is how a communist & marxist system works.
Conservatives have ALWAYS been older. If you look at most MPs they are older. Older people tend to be less extreme.
Geriatric ? No.
Don't like foreigners .. yeah that's another piece of Labour or Liberal rhetoric. You should be ashamed to even use that as an excuse.
Over the past 45 years a lot of businesses have been wiped out .. some, if not many, directly through political action .. a simple example being UK Fishing. A more recent one being UK Steel .. BTW that's 30,000 REAL highly paid skilled jobs that have existed for 200 years with great pensions.
IMHO Climate Change is a sick joke of a policy .. sending jobs 1,000s of miles away to create exactly the same thing using dirty energy and creating even more pollution by transport .. all caused by EU & HMG policies on bits of paper.
So with respect your "Business" perspective is ignorant of the fact that others have considered how backward HMG & EU policy is to their region.
London does okay because most of the UK's budget is spent in London .. no region would do badly in those circumstances.
wanton dwarf
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Here's my post .. you seem confused.
Note the lack of "vote in the EU", you made that bit up .. note the actual "vote in another referendum".