Voting ID cards

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
Labour seem to be a bit up in the air about this. I wonder why. Personally I am against ID cards which you need to carry at all times. However, in order to vote should you not have to show some eligible photo ID? This could be passport or driving license and for those without either a simple voter ID card.

The argument seems to be that the poor cannot afford this, however, I am sure that the govt would support those on universal credit etc. to get one free in good time. So essentially if you can't be bothered to ask, you don't get a vote. I think this is OK.

I bring it up as I went to vote the other day and gave them my number and they asked me to confirm my name which was correct and I voted. But there was no checking of any sort. My neighbour has just died so could I have gone later and voted as him?

Why are the socialists so upset about this? What are they worried about?
 

kfpben

Member
Location
Mid Hampshire
It is mad that in 2021 I just turn up to a polling station and say hi I’m X and there are no checks at all. I could be anyone.

There should also be some kind of database of who has voted where. One Election Day when I was a student I was driving from my parents’ house to my flat in Glasgow. I had polling cards for both and could easily have voted in both places if I had been dishonest.
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
I tend to agree, but I am more concerned about postal voting.
I noticed many of the European voters coming through offered driving licences, passports, even marriage certificates. All seemed surprised , we did not require it
That is another can of worms.
 

Boohoo

Member
Location
Newtownabbey
Where would my 80+ year old father get one, do you suggest? He’s in Scotland, not Ireland. He has a paper driving licence and no current passport, FYI.
If ID becomes compulsory in Scotland there will be a system in place. Voter ID checks aren't about taking the vote away from people, they're about stopping voter fraud.

In Northern Ireland the voter ID cards are supplied by The Electoral Office and other forms of acceptable identification don't have to be current as long as the photograph is still a good enough likeness to allow the polling centre staff to confirm the identity of the holder.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
If ID becomes compulsory in Scotland there will be a system in place. Voter ID checks aren't about taking the vote away from people, they're about stopping voter fraud.

In Northern Ireland the voter ID cards are supplied by The Electoral Office and other forms of acceptable identification don't have to be current as long as the photograph is still a good enough likeness to allow the polling centre staff to confirm the identity of the holder.

But my point is there’s nothing available right now that doesn’t cost him. And as for voter fraud, I don’t think that’s an issue here anyway - the benefits of a rural community is that every one knows each other.
 

Boohoo

Member
Location
Newtownabbey
But my point is there’s nothing available right now that doesn’t cost him. And as for voter fraud, I don’t think that’s an issue here anyway - the benefits of a rural community is that every one knows each other.
It isn't a legal requirement at the moment in Scotland though so there isn't an issue.
 

nivilla1982

Member
Livestock Farmer
In Northern Ireland, you will need to take a correct form of photo ID with you to your polling station. You won't be able to vote without it.

The only acceptable forms of ID are:

a UK or Irish passport
a UK, Irish or EEA driving licence
a Translink 60+ Smartpass
a Translink Senior Smartpass
a Translink Blind Person's Smartpass
a Translink War Disabled Smartpass
an Electoral Identity Card
The ID can be expired, but staff at the polling station must be satisfied that you are the person in the photograph on the ID.
 
If ID becomes compulsory in Scotland there will be a system in place. Voter ID checks aren't about taking the vote away from people, they're about stopping voter fraud.

In Northern Ireland the voter ID cards are supplied by The Electoral Office and other forms of acceptable identification don't have to be current as long as the photograph is still a good enough likeness to allow the polling centre staff to confirm the identity of the holder.
I have a paper driving license so the only photo ID I have is my shotgun certificate, which I am more than happy to use. When I voted the other day, I popped in on the way back from the mart, so didn't have my voting card with me, they asked my name and address, my bigger worry is the rise in postal voting, I think that should be stopped. I think there should be a very good reason why a postal vote is used, maybe a certificate from a Doctor so show that the voter was unable to attend, sorry, but if you choose to go on hols when there is an election, tough.
 

Boohoo

Member
Location
Newtownabbey
I have a paper driving license so the only photo ID I have is my shotgun certificate, which I am more than happy to use. When I voted the other day, I popped in on the way back from the mart, so didn't have my voting card with me, they asked my name and address, my bigger worry is the rise in postal voting, I think that should be stopped. I think there should be a very good reason why a postal vote is used, maybe a certificate from a Doctor so show that the voter was unable to attend, sorry, but if you choose to go on hols when there is an election, tough.
We have had photocard driving licences for as long as I can remember so the situation is a little different here. A common sense solution for GB might be to allow any current driving licence to be used as identification until all of the paper licences have been phased out.
 

Vader

Member
Mixed Farmer
Does need something doing. Other of cases of dodgy goings on.
In certain local communities, the local leader been known to go into voting booth help the women vote...
Also 1 person turning up with lots of voting slips to hand in.
Core labour vote so its ignored to keep them in local seats...
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I think there should be a very good reason why a postal vote is used, maybe a certificate from a Doctor so show that the voter was unable to attend, sorry, but if you choose to go on hols when there is an election, tough.

This was the first vote this century when I have been at home. Every previous vote I have been working away and contributing the the UK’s balance of trade. Should I really be punished for that?
 

Agrivator

Member
For generations, activists for a particular party (it starts with L and ends with R) have offered reluctant voters a lift to the Polling Station so that they are able to vote.

But they don't persist, if the eligible voters are reluctant to leave their fireside or Labour Club) they simply offer to take their voting cards to the Polling Station themselves, and obviously vote in the way the reluctant voter wishes :rolleyes: .
 

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The Health and Safety Executive for Northern Ireland (HSENI) alongside the Farm Safety Partnership (FSP), has named new farm safety champions and commended the outstanding work on farm safety that has been carried out in the farming community in the last 20 years.

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