VW Amarok future prices

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SW Scotland
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New mandatory UK CO2 emissions targets are set to come into effect from 1 January 2021. Whilst these rules replicate the previous EU emissions targets and penalties, their effect when assessed on a UK only basis may result in radical shifts in the types of vehicles being offered for sale in the UK.

Mandatory European CO2 emissions limits have been in place since 2009 for new cars, and since 2011 for new vans. Regulation (EU) 2019/631 (the "Regulation") is the latest legal instrument setting out those emissions limits for new passenger cars and vans, with stringent targets and penalties applicable to manufacturers in 2020.

The 2020 EU fleet-wide CO2 emissions limit is set at:

  • 95 g CO2/km for new passenger cars; and
  • 147 g CO2/km for vans.
To put these limits into context, according to EU data, average fleet emissions in 2018 were 120 g CO2/km for passenger cars, and 158 g CO2/kg for vans, respectively. More stringent limits are envisaged by the Regulation in 2025 and 2030. Many automakers are therefore already faced with having to alter their strategies in order to avoid non-compliance with EU limits.

The penalty for non-compliance with these mandatory CO2 limits is a fine of €95 for each g/km of excess per vehicle registered (for new passenger cars and for new vans); this is a marked increase from previous penalties and has led one commentator to predict that total fines under the EU regime could amount to €33 billion in 2020 alone.

The picture looks even more daunting for the UK market in particular, the love affair with Sports Utility Vehicles (SUVs) and concurrent decline in the popularity of diesel models (which produce lower CO2 than petrol versions) seeing the UK's average fleet emissions hit almost 128 g CO2/kg (cars) in 2019. Manufacturers have so far been able to offset such high values against their better emissions records in certain other European countries, such as Italy, Norway and the Netherlands, where smaller, and increasingly electric vehicles, are favoured.

However, at the end of the Brexit transition period (currently scheduled for 31 December 2020), a manufacturer's vehicle emissions record in the UK looks set to stand alone, the option to offset broader EU emissions no longer being available. Coupled with the UK Government's plans to adopt the same CO2 targets and fine structure as the EU, this could see a radical shift in the types of vehicles being offered for sale in the UK, as fines make it unsustainable from a commercial and reputational perspective for manufacturers to continue selling the same higher-polluting vehicles that UK consumers have been buying to date.

Aside from decarbonising vehicle fleets, which will be a key aim for manufacturers, one option available and which is envisaged by the Regulation, is the forming of open pooling arrangements with other manufacturers. Subject to competition law, manufacturers are allowed to enter into open pools with other automotive manufacturers in order to combine and pool their fleet's emissions. Where manufacturers form an open pool they are deemed to have met their targets under the Regulation provided that the average emissions of the pool as a whole do not exceed the specific emissions target for the pool.

As well as providing an opportunity for manufacturers to avoid substantial fines for non-compliance, open pools represent an attractive commercial opportunity for manufacturers with better emissions profiles since they can commercialise their surplus emissions headroom; in effect, the higher emitting manufacturer can pay the lower emitting manufacturer to pool emissions, the fees representing better value than a potential fine and the associated negative publicity. But open pooling relies on there being manufacturers in the market with surplus emissions headroom to sell, which may not be the case if market wide average emissions are above the limits.
 
The V6 Amarok has 232 g co2/kg which is possibly why some people think we won't see similar sold in the UK again or if we did the price would be sky high.
Cos they were such a bargain when they were here 🤣🤣
So basically we'll see a fair few models available elsewhere in Europe become unavailable here.
 

ricky_rascal

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Location
N. Yorks
The V6 is fitted to many other VAG vehicles and there is no issue with it passing emissions. I do believe they wanted the German assembly line for other vehicles. They still make the Amarok in Argentina, from where the early UK models were imported.
Also I think they wanted to lower corporate fuel consumption and emission figures.

Can‘t find where I read it but sure it was a pickup review. No matter, a load of tosh then :rolleyes:

Yes it will. At the moment we are going for zero emissions sooner than the EU. Our reputation for gold-plating will not be lost just because we have left.

I think so for sure. Can’t see them relaxing emission regs at all. Imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the green lobby and others? On issues of the environment the UK leads by example as I’m sure English farmers will find out :rolleyes:
 

JCfarmer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
Spoke with a reasonably local agricultural dealer/engineer today who I haven't dealt with before. He said do like your Amarok as he had sold his because he fancied a change and he got over £4000 more for it than when he bought it 12months ago.
Mine is a 2019 Amarok Aventura grey metallic and looking at prices and mileage tonight I could easily get £5000 more for it than I paid new!
I love mine, like the Tourag inside, really comfortable, goes like sh!t off a shovel and keeps going up in value!(y)(y)(y) (y)
Whats not to like!? :ROFLMAO:
Oh yeah the DPF has been replaced once and back to the garage twice for engine management amber light to be turned off to do with the DPF,it hates short journeys especially in winter.
Still love it mind
 

GeorgeK

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Location
Leicestershire
Pinched this from the Internet

New mandatory UK CO2 emissions targets are set to come into effect from 1 January 2021. Whilst these rules replicate the previous EU emissions targets and penalties, their effect when assessed on a UK only basis may result in radical shifts in the types of vehicles being offered for sale in the UK.

Mandatory European CO2 emissions limits have been in place since 2009 for new cars, and since 2011 for new vans. Regulation (EU) 2019/631 (the "Regulation") is the latest legal instrument setting out those emissions limits for new passenger cars and vans, with stringent targets and penalties applicable to manufacturers in 2020.

The 2020 EU fleet-wide CO2 emissions limit is set at:

  • 95 g CO2/km for new passenger cars; and
  • 147 g CO2/km for vans.
To put these limits into context, according to EU data, average fleet emissions in 2018 were 120 g CO2/km for passenger cars, and 158 g CO2/kg for vans, respectively. More stringent limits are envisaged by the Regulation in 2025 and 2030. Many automakers are therefore already faced with having to alter their strategies in order to avoid non-compliance with EU limits.

The penalty for non-compliance with these mandatory CO2 limits is a fine of €95 for each g/km of excess per vehicle registered (for new passenger cars and for new vans); this is a marked increase from previous penalties and has led one commentator to predict that total fines under the EU regime could amount to €33 billion in 2020 alone.

The picture looks even more daunting for the UK market in particular, the love affair with Sports Utility Vehicles (SUVs) and concurrent decline in the popularity of diesel models (which produce lower CO2 than petrol versions) seeing the UK's average fleet emissions hit almost 128 g CO2/kg (cars) in 2019. Manufacturers have so far been able to offset such high values against their better emissions records in certain other European countries, such as Italy, Norway and the Netherlands, where smaller, and increasingly electric vehicles, are favoured.

However, at the end of the Brexit transition period (currently scheduled for 31 December 2020), a manufacturer's vehicle emissions record in the UK looks set to stand alone, the option to offset broader EU emissions no longer being available. Coupled with the UK Government's plans to adopt the same CO2 targets and fine structure as the EU, this could see a radical shift in the types of vehicles being offered for sale in the UK, as fines make it unsustainable from a commercial and reputational perspective for manufacturers to continue selling the same higher-polluting vehicles that UK consumers have been buying to date.

Aside from decarbonising vehicle fleets, which will be a key aim for manufacturers, one option available and which is envisaged by the Regulation, is the forming of open pooling arrangements with other manufacturers. Subject to competition law, manufacturers are allowed to enter into open pools with other automotive manufacturers in order to combine and pool their fleet's emissions. Where manufacturers form an open pool they are deemed to have met their targets under the Regulation provided that the average emissions of the pool as a whole do not exceed the specific emissions target for the pool.

As well as providing an opportunity for manufacturers to avoid substantial fines for non-compliance, open pools represent an attractive commercial opportunity for manufacturers with better emissions profiles since they can commercialise their surplus emissions headroom; in effect, the higher emitting manufacturer can pay the lower emitting manufacturer to pool emissions, the fees representing better value than a potential fine and the associated negative publicity. But open pooling relies on there being manufacturers in the market with surplus emissions headroom to sell, which may not be the case if market wide average emissions are above the limits.
That's interesting, looking into it I see more recently the government has decided to fiddle the statistics and still allow EU averaging for the UK fleet. This means that our preference for heavy SUVs will be allowed to continue, and the higher UK fleet emissions offset by countries like Norway that has a high proportion of EVs.
 

manfromhill

Member
To be fair, automatics these days, particularly that nice 8 speed ZF unit found in so many vehicles are the only way to fly. So responsive and refined.
I think the automatic is good I thought that the trendline was the lowest spec and were virtually all manuals with the 2l engine which means it wouldn’t have the benefit of the permanent 4wd
 

alomy75

Member
I m presently looking at a 2016 amarok trend line. Its a180 bhp model.
Is there anything to look out for?
Thanks
If you can, put a bit more to it and get the highline. Way nicer inside and out; plus will hold money better. Try and find your choice of back/rollbar already fitted as genuine retrofit ones are obscene money. Tried 2 before buying mine; one had a terrible diff whine which the garage sorted but it put me off. Worth listening out for; was worst on the overrun when coming off the power at around 40mph.
 

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