Wages

[fred.950]

Thank you for all the replies.
It has helped alot and really has opened my eyes.
I feel unappreciated.
However I guess alot of employees do.

Please don’t think I’m being negative but you have to decide if you like your job and where you live? If you do then I don’t imagine there’s going to be a lot of wiggle room on 600 acres. I’m on really good money here and am treated exceptionally well but I only have help at harvest and we cover 3000 acres.

 

[Will 1594]

Please don’t think I’m being negative but you have to decide if you like your job and where you live? If you do then I don’t imagine there’s going to be a lot of wiggle room on 600 acres. I’m on really good money here and am treated exceptionally well but I only have help at harvest and we cover 3000 acres.

Fred ,i am a bit same here with work load ,never stop
i wonder how many on here who are questioning money , are
100% commited to the work ,
you know ,your ploughing a sticky field ,and rain coming next day
wife is wanting to go out ,at 7 but you wont be finished till 10:30 and an inch of rain due and ploughing going well , am interested in ansers ,
me It would be ploughed ,and finished ,and go outnon a wet day , knowing you have finished the field in good order ,and have the satisfaction of a job well done ,instead of f**k it it makes no difference to me if ot dont get done , i will still get payed any way ,

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Fred ,i am a bit same here with work load ,never stop
i wonder how many on here who are questioning money , are
100% commited to the work ,
you know ,your ploughing a sticky field ,and rain coming next day
wife is wanting to go out ,at 7 but you wont be finished till 10:30 and an inch of rain due and ploughing going well , am interested in ansers ,
me It would be ploughed ,and finished ,and go outnon a wet day , knowing you have finished the field in good order ,and have the satisfaction of a job well done ,instead of f**k it it makes no difference to me if ot dont get done , i will still get payed any way ,

Surely that is part of the job description and the nature of the work involved,
The problem is when it's day after day, week after week, month after month,
Everyone needs time off and a work life balance, but I do agree on a short term basis

 

[betweenthelines]

Fred ,i am a bit same here with work load ,never stop
i wonder how many on here who are questioning money , are
100% commited to the work ,
you know ,your ploughing a sticky field ,and rain coming next day
wife is wanting to go out ,at 7 but you wont be finished till 10:30 and an inch of rain due and ploughing going well , am interested in ansers ,
me It would be ploughed ,and finished ,and go outnon a wet day , knowing you have finished the field in good order ,and have the satisfaction of a job well done ,instead of f**k it it makes no difference to me if ot dont get done , i will still get payed any way ,

Your view of 100% committed to work sounds like a total lack of work/life balance and a certain route to divorce.

 

[fred.950]

Fred ,i am a bit same here with work load ,never stop
i wonder how many on here who are questioning money , are
100% commited to the work ,
you know ,your ploughing a sticky field ,and rain coming next day
wife is wanting to go out ,at 7 but you wont be finished till 10:30 and an inch of rain due and ploughing going well , am interested in ansers ,
me It would be ploughed ,and finished ,and go outnon a wet day , knowing you have finished the field in good order ,and have the satisfaction of a job well done ,instead of f**k it it makes no difference to me if ot dont get done , i will still get payed any way ,

I agree with you 100% but I’m lucky that if there’s nothing doing I can go home, I love the flexibility and work better with a lot to do, go hard or go home
I couldn’t cope with having to kick around with little to do!

 

[Spud]

Collie
You can't expect to be given shares, you need to earn them.
When I became a partner I put my car in the business as a stake, because I had little cash due to paying a mortgage. I lived off my drawings and my profit share stayed in the business to build my share, as it has for nearly 20yrs now.
Your share can't be touched by siblings, and you'd still be eligible for a share of your parents share, as would your siblings.
If your lucky your parents will recognize that as @Nearly points out, fair isn't always equal, but don't be greedy.
After ten years my wife and I sold our house to put money in the business, so mum & dad could take money out to buy a bungalow, and my family & moved into the farmhouse.

 

[Will 1594]

I agree with you 100% but I’m lucky that if there’s nothing doing I can go home, I love the flexibility and work better with a lot to do, go hard or go home
I couldn’t cope with having to kick around with little to do!

same here fred go hard go home between the line
you don’t know the wife ,
1 st question would be what tome finish
2 nd is owt on 66 will put other plough on and come start doing garings , we can go out when wet
wife
she runs a bakery and 6 staff full time then comes home and sometimes helps at harvest etc
and will jump on combine our leader pays her well and is hosting her 40 th party as a thank you for stuff she does

 

[Brisel]

same here fred go hard go home between the line
you don’t know the wife ,
1 st question would be what tome finish
2 nd is owt on 66 will put other plough on and come start doing garings , we can go out when wet
wife
she runs a bakery and 6 staff full time then comes home and sometimes helps at harvest etc
and will jump on combine our leader pays her well and is hosting her 40 th party as a thank you for stuff she does

Your wife is the exception! Many don’t like the long hours.

 

[ollie989898]

Ten of us work on a big farm in the East of England. The main drivers are responsible for spraying, spreading, drilling, planting harvesting million pound crops and having to make daily decision on if to spray, spread, drill, plant and harvest. Also we do all the servicing and repairs on all of the tractors and machines that are not under warranty along with estate maintenance.
We get just over £10 an hour, some have a house on the farm, some have a truck, some don't get a house or a truck.
We have asked for more money but told not is available.
We work over 3000 hours a year doing what ever is asked of us, we don't really get the training for the jobs we do.
The feeling on the farm is very low , we have good staff and good friends, I don't think think the skilled staff can carry on like this much longer.

If you don't enjoy your work and you are obliged to work many hours to make ends meet due to the hourly rate not agreeing with you, then it is time to explore other forms of employment you could try your hand at.

Virtually every user of this forum I would bet can turn their hand to many many things and be paid handsomely for it without much trouble.

As I have said earlier on this thread I think, there are employers out there that will value what you do and invest heavily on keeping your well rewarded, trained and engaged.

 

[ollie989898]

Please don’t think I’m being negative but you have to decide if you like your job and where you live? If you do then I don’t imagine there’s going to be a lot of wiggle room on 600 acres. I’m on really good money here and am treated exceptionally well but I only have help at harvest and we cover 3000 acres.

You and your situation will be replicated up and down the country hundreds of times I would bet. Big workload but all the toys you need and probably much reduced hours in the winter.

 

[CollieFarmer]

Collie
You can't expect to be given shares, you need to earn them.
When I became a partner I put my car in the business as a stake, because I had little cash due to paying a mortgage. I lived off my drawings and my profit share stayed in the business to build my share, as it has for nearly 20yrs now.
Your share can't be touched by siblings, and you'd still be eligible for a share of your parents share, as would your siblings.
If your lucky your parents will recognize that as @Nearly points out, fair isn't always equal, but don't be greedy.
After ten years my wife and I sold our house to put money in the business, so mum & dad could take money out to buy a bungalow, and my family & moved into the farmhouse.

I have never chased getting shares, for me it's the enjoyment of working with dad on the family farm, iam 5th generation and I hope me and my son can continue into the future. As I said earlier all I was after was a pay rise... but I have been offered shares instead which I'm over the moon about. I guess i have been slowly putting money in over the years with the cattle, as much as I can afford to anyway on £10 an hour, three years ago it was £9, but that wasn't for expectation of shares it was to keep the business generations before me have worked hard at going.

 

[fred.950]

You and your situation will be replicated up and down the country hundreds of times I would bet. Big workload but all the toys you need and probably much reduced hours in the winter.

I only do three days a week between end of October and January, not much in the way of hedges mind. It certainly wouldn’t be possible down in the Vale for example.

 

[Fendt516profi]

same here fred go hard go home between the line
you don’t know the wife ,
1 st question would be what tome finish
2 nd is owt on 66 will put other plough on and come start doing garings , we can go out when wet
wife
she runs a bakery and 6 staff full time then comes home and sometimes helps at harvest etc
and will jump on combine our leader pays her well and is hosting her 40 th party as a thank you for stuff she does

The impression you give I think your wife works harder than you

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

The impression you give I think your wife works harder than you

you could be right

 

[kiwi pom]

Fred ,i am a bit same here with work load ,never stop
i wonder how many on here who are questioning money , are
100% commited to the work ,
you know ,your ploughing a sticky field ,and rain coming next day
wife is wanting to go out ,at 7 but you wont be finished till 10:30 and an inch of rain due and ploughing going well , am interested in ansers ,
me It would be ploughed ,and finished ,and go outnon a wet day , knowing you have finished the field in good order ,and have the satisfaction of a job well done ,instead of f**k it it makes no difference to me if ot dont get done , i will still get payed any way ,

From what I've read of your situation you're left to get on with it and work you're own hours, much like a boss does?
I'd say that's rare, most employees are told when to start and finish and what jobs they should be doing, which isn't always what you would do if left to it.
Things become a bit different then. You choose to plough on until 10.30 and your wife's ok with it. Be told you're staying to 10.30 when your wife had something planned and you were supposed to look after the kids and it becomes a different job.

 

[Will 1594]

The impression you give I think your wife works harder than you

She has also been asked to join local ploughing society ,committee as they all like coming to matches she deals with as very well organized and get a good following ,