Waiting for more agchems on Farm Marketplace

Clive

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Arable Farmer
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Lichfield
Well if that's the case, someone on Chem price tracker has a quote for Fence (exactly same as macho as far as I am aware) at £255/ can. That's £25 under your price!

first off it's not "my" price, I am not a vendor just as a buying group is not a vendor - marketplace is a platform that simply matches buyers and sellers (as is a buying group) we are just online and free of membership fee

If a product is on there and can be bought cheaper elsewhere then great, some stuff might be cheaper and some stuff more expensive - the buyer can decide, as range and choice increases the incidence of being able to find cheaper elsewhere will without doubt fall

re Fence - its an albaugh product but not a UK one I believe ? - their Flufenacet in the UK is Macho - does Fence have a UK MAPP number ?

where is the £255 Fence available ? or is it "secret" ? maybe the vendor should get themselves on Marketplace as they would sell loads if they can be that much below the rest of the market
 
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Hampton

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Location
Shropshire
first off it's not "my" price, I am not a vendor just as a buying group is not a vendor - marketplace is a platform that simply matches buyers and sellers

If a product is on there and can be bought cheaper elsewhere then great, some stuff might be cheaper and some stuff more expensive - the buyer can decide, as range and choice increases the incidence of being able to find cheaper elsewhere will without doubt fall

re Fence - its an albaugh product but not a UK one I believe ? - their Flufenacet in the UK is Macho - does Fence have a UK MAPP number ?

where is the £255 Fence available ? or is it "secret" ? maybe the vendor should get themselves on Marketplace as they would sell loads if they can be that much below the rest of the market
i suggest you visit the chem price tracker thread and contact the poster.

Fence does have a UK Mapp number and is sold by many firms including agrovista
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
i suggest you visit the chem price tracker thread and contact the poster.

Fence does have a UK Mapp number and is sold by many firms including agrovista

I was led to believe that Macho was the albaugh UK flufenacet product - trouble i find with the price tracker thread is there are lots of prices but usually no one saying where that price is available from ! places questions over the credibility of some posts IMO

If Fence has a UK MAPP then great. MP wont win them all that's for sure the Macho vendor wil have to compete with that Fence price if they want to sell any. I don't buy all my chemicals from one supplier, I pick and choose on a product by product basis to get the best prices

Early days - as MP vendors build and add more product it gets more competitive, the latest vendor is VERY well priced IMO wit 2 similar ones coming soon - £1.82/L glypho is well below the sharpest price I've seen this year so far


if no one wants it though I could just switch it all off or not bother with chemicals at all .............would the market be better for farmers if I did ? I REALLY dont think so
 

Hampton

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Shropshire
I was led to believe that Macho was the albaugh UK flufenacet product - trouble i find with the price tracker thread is there are lots of prices but usually no one saying where that price is available from ! places questions over the credibility of some posts IMO

If Fence has a UK MAPP then great. MP wont win them all that's for sure the Macho vendor wil have to compete with that Fence price if they want to sell any. I don't buy all my chemicals from one supplier, I pick and choose on a product by product basis to get the best prices

Early days - as MP vendors build and add more product it gets more competitive, the latest vendor is VERY well priced IMO wit 2 similar ones coming soon - £1.82/L glypho is well below the sharpest price I've seen this year so far


if no one wants it though I could just switch it all off or not bother with chemicals at all .............would the market be better for farmers if I did ? I REALLY dont think so
Why are you getting defensive? You asked to be kept informed if anyone can buy cheaper and it turns out one of your members can.
From my point of view, I will buy stuff if it is priced right and can be delivered to my area. I haven't got any problem with you making money on it, same way as I don't have a problem with other firms making money.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Why are you getting defensive? You asked to be kept informed if anyone can buy cheaper and it turns out one of your members can.
From my point of view, I will buy stuff if it is priced right and can be delivered to my area. I haven't got any problem with you making money on it, same way as I don't have a problem with other firms making money.

im not being defensive - just pointing out the error as you refer to "my" price - its not my price as I'm not a ag chem dealer and have no desire to be one

A price has been quoted for Fence which as I say I understand is not the UK product, the source of the price is unknown which is my issue with the tracker thread , ie its full of "fake news" sometimes but if it can be bought cheaper than Macho on MP that's great, the supplier should stick it on MP where there would sell loads, the vendors on MP wont alwats be the cheapest on every product , just cherry pick the ones that are will be my approach as a farmer, those that don't compete wont sell. I will buy my Flufenacet at the cheapest price be that on MP or elsewhere

I'm not making money on ag chems BTW - I'm trying to improve our deal / choice as farmers, It's a lot of effort for no reward, as a result i'm getting a little bored of people trying to find the problems at every turn rather than appreciating the advantages it can and will bring. I apologise if that frustration is coming through in my endless replies explaining how it works
 

Hampton

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im not being defensive - just pointing out the error as you refer to "my" price - its not my price as I'm not a ag chem dealer and have no desire to be one

A price has been quoted for Fence which as I say I understand is not the UK product, the source of the price is unknown which is my issue with the tracker thread , ie its full of "fake news" sometimes but if it can be bought cheaper that's great, the supplier should stick it on MP where there would sell loads, the vendors on MP wont alwats be the cheapest on every product , juts cheery pick the ones that are will be my approach as a farmer, those that don't compete wont sell

I'm not making money on ag chems BTW - I'm trying to improve our deal as farmers, as a result i'm getting a little bored of people trying to find the problems at every turn rather than appreciating the advantages it can and will bring. I apologise if that frustration is coming through in my endless replies explaining how it works
The fake news appears to be you doubting and dismissing other members prices.
Incidentally I was quoted 285 from a big distributor for fence (one of the top 3). the one on your platform is cheaper but you don't deliver to me. Pm me and I will tell you which firm quoted me.
I'm not sure I was trying to find problems. Just bringing a Chem price into your awareness as it's fairly clear that your platform is price driven, and if their are lower prices about it's not going to gain ground.

Anyway, until Chem deliveries are to WV postcodes it's all irrelevant to me.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
The fake news appears to be you doubting and dismissing other members prices.
Incidentally I was quoted 285 from a big distributor for fence (one of the top 3). the one on your platform is cheaper but you don't deliver to me. Pm me and I will tell you which firm quoted me.
I'm not sure I was trying to find problems. Just bringing a Chem price into your awareness as it's fairly clear that your platform is price driven, and if their are lower prices about it's not going to gain ground.

Anyway, until Chem deliveries are to WV postcodes it's all irrelevant to me.


all prices quoted on the tracker threads would be a lot more credible if the source of the price was posted along with the price - the price is no good to me as a farmer if I dont know how to access it

re delivery - you will be able to get delivery of this latest addition of products, still waiting for sign off to switch them to live though :banghead:
 

Hampton

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Shropshire
Sorry, my last post on this, then I'm done.
When we pay for Chems on farm marketplace, do we pay the Chem firm and they pay your commission, or do we pay farm marketplace and you pass on a proportion of the money to the Chem firm.
It is important to now who we are a customer of in case of issues. Eg if you buy it off HLH and there is a problem the farmers issue is with HLH, not the Chem company.
Or is it at buyers risk?
 

Walton2

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It seems plain to me this should be a game -changer....it certainly needs support from minute-one. I have been waiting for a week to get my glyphosate ordered,even keener now I have an idea of the price!!
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Sorry, my last post on this, then I'm done.
When we pay for Chems on farm marketplace, do we pay the Chem firm and they pay your commission, or do we pay farm marketplace and you pass on a proportion of the money to the Chem firm.
It is important to now who we are a customer of in case of issues. Eg if you buy it off HLH and there is a problem the farmers issue is with HLH, not the Chem company.
Or is it at buyers risk?

It's just the same as a buying group for chemicals - you buy and pay FMP, the vendor delivers, we pay vendor, any dispute you contact FMP who have a legal agreement with vendor to take responsibility for their product

no buyer's risk, exactly the same amount of come back you would have with anyone
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
It seems plain to me this should be a game -changer....it certainly needs support from minute-one. I have been waiting for a week to get my glyphosate ordered,even keener now I have an idea of the price!!

sorry again it takes time, these companies need sign offs at lots of levels it seems


Great news just received is we have another big supplier coming on next week with both branded and generic product, including Liberator, Kerb and some slug pellets etc

its building bit by it and tanks those that are supporting this game changer
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
It seems plain to me this should be a game -changer....it certainly needs support from minute-one. I have been waiting for a week to get my glyphosate ordered,even keener now I have an idea of the price!!

here you go - wait is over !

https://www.marketplace.farm/farm-marketplace-chemicals/

live (you need to be a logged in verified farmer user to see profesional use product though)

more next week Tuesday / Wednesday all being well branded autumn cereal and OSR products and some slug pellets
 
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scholland

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Location
ze3
Well done on getting this far
Are the new herbicides for national delivery?
General comment, there are a lot of items in some categories now, could for example all the milk liners be lumped together rather than each different size/type being listed individually?
 

Chris F

Staff Member
Media
Location
Hammerwich
Well done on getting this far
Are the new herbicides for national delivery?
General comment, there are a lot of items in some categories now, could for example all the milk liners be lumped together rather than each different size/type being listed individually?

The delivery area has widened to include the midlands as of today and will grow some more next week when we can arrange for further logistics. We are getting there slowly. Just message us if you are out of area as one person has already done tonight to help them complete their order.
 

Hampton

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Location
Shropshire
The delivery area has widened to include the midlands as of today and will grow some more next week when we can arrange for further logistics. We are getting there slowly. Just message us if you are out of area as one person has already done tonight to help them complete their order.
Will there be any generic bio power equivalent to go with the nemo?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Just made first order, decent saving, all good so far. Will we be able to pay by debit card or will it stay bacs?

Thanks for using MP - your first of many more I hope !

Debit / credit card has a 1.4% transaction cost which we felt was more than people would want on higher value items like ag chemicals so we have currently said bank transfer only on such items

we could add the facility to use credit / debit but would anyone want to pay the extra cost ?

Aim is to keep prices low as possible so giving a credit card company a cut seems wasteful, BACS is free so no additional cost gets lumped on the product

prices have just changed on some items, first allocation of glyphosate sold out very quickly, next allocation is 3p/20L more I think but still a mega price IMO at under £1.82/L posible
 

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