Wales NVZ, stocking rate at 170kg/ha N.

[nivilla1982]

Have you guys in NI got a derogation this year?
It seems to have been overlooked here in England, lost in the whole Brexit shake up, the derogation being a European thing and something our lot seem to have forgot about/don’t care about since they’ve taken back control.

End of the month is the deadline to apply for a derogation in NI. Deadline was extended due to covid 19.

 

[Tarw Coch]

End of the month is the deadline to apply for a derogation in NI. Deadline was extended due to covid 19.

I haven’t heard anything like that for England , I use an agent to ensure all paperwork is in order, apply for derogation etc and when I last enquired with them there was no news on a derogation. I would hope they would keep me informed but as the lady who usually looks after my file is on maternity leave it’s not impossible I’ve been overlooked

 

[nivilla1982]

Done online here, relatively quick.

 

[Back Row Man]

Have you guys in NI got a derogation this year?
It seems to have been overlooked here in England, lost in the whole Brexit shake up, the derogation being a European thing and something our lot seem to have forgot about/don’t care about since they’ve taken back control.

Yes I have applied for this year last week, there never was any talk of it not being available but remember we're following EU rules here and are still part of the Single Market so that's a big difference

 

[Yale]

up to 370kg/hectare but on average 350, depending on the weather and carry-over forage situation. About 250 to 275 of that applied as ammonium nitrate and the rest as slurry.

That's if I'm converting units per acre accurately into kg/hectare properly. Someone will soon tell me if not.

So in old speak it would be 250kg/ha of bagged N,6 bags (50kg bags) to the 100kg n per year.

So over the year 6 bags of Nitram to the acre roughly?

 

[dairyrow]

Who's checking this the red tractor lot?

 

[davidroberts30]

So in old speak it would be 250kg/ha of bagged N,6 bags (50kg bags) to the 100kg n per year.

So over the year 6 bags of Nitram to the acre roughly?

350kg a hectare x0.8 = 280units acre

 

[Tarw Coch]

Who's checking this the red tractor lot?

In England, officially the Environment Agency, although I do put it in front of the RT inspector as proof of manure management plan

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I remember that in Denmark, every farm had to have a fertliser management plan, and there were limits to how much fertliser could be bought (depending on the number of acres it was to be used on), I can remember I knew someone and she was an advisor working full time writing fertliser plans. Not sure if that is still the case there, but I bet it is.

 

[flyonthewall]

Yeap 6 x 50kg = 300 x .345 (nitrogen percent) = 103.5 acre x 2.47105 = 255.75 kg/ha. Didn’t know you could still get 50kg bags!?

 

[Bald Rick]

Had cause to be trundling around the Welshpool area and environs today and was stunned at the number of clucking sheds gone up since I last paddled around there.
All in the Severn catchment

 

[dairyrow]

Theres more going up to and pig fatting units as well.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Theres more going up to and pig fatting units as well.

Hardly surprising, a lot has been said about how Brexit would damage sheep farmers livings which will no doubt have made many look at other sources of income.

 

[flyonthewall]

Yeap thrown under the bus along with the fishermen when our livings were promised to be protected. Surprising lamb prices are where they are with the difficulties exporting.

 

[Farmer 83563]

Lesley Griffiths (and Shaggaty's) Labour friend f^cked it up at the local council by-elections in Wrexham on Thursday ... live in hope that we get a new Ag Minister that understands and respects our industry at Senedd elections in May.

 

[vantage]

Lesley Griffiths (and Shaggaty's) Labour friend f^cked it up at the local council by-elections in Wrexham on Thursday ... live in hope that we get a new Ag Minister that understands and respects our industry at Senedd elections in May.

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The turnout is abysmal.

 

[Farmer 83563]

The turnout is abysmal.

Yes, I know ... her friend still lost tho!

 

[davidroberts30]

Common Agriculture Policy; Cross Compliance Farmers Factsheets (gov.wales)


b1 on the list, does that mean orgasmic farmers are exempt from the closed spreading periods?

 

[Bald Rick]

Common Agriculture Policy; Cross Compliance Farmers Factsheets (gov.wales)


b1 on the list, does that mean orgasmic farmers are exempt from the closed spreading periods?

No as B1 relates directly to manufactured N.

Full Wales NVZ from 1st April 2023

 

[vantage]

Common Agriculture Policy; Cross Compliance Farmers Factsheets (gov.wales)


b1 on the list, does that mean orgasmic farmers are exempt from the closed spreading periods?

Looks like it.