Wash day a few pictures for JP1 ,DaveJ and any other firemen part 1

Xerion

Member
Location
Deutschland
Well as I am on the sick for another 2 weeks I have a bit of time to catch up on FFW things and today wash wash day for both machines and a general sort out in the geräte haus . So I thought I would show you guys some of our kit over here in germany and see how it compares to your uk kit .
This is our LF (Löschgruppenfahrzuuge sitting in the station

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Heres looking down the right hand side the first Fach contains the major rescue equipment , generator , chain saws ,angle grider etc

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The middle Fach contains larger items like hydrant ,hydrant key ,60 litres of foam mix plus foam cannon etc and a lafette for the static water thrower .

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The last Fach on the right hand side is all the tools for the attack troop B,C nozzels ,C hose baskets with 60 meters in each basket etc

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On both sides of the vechicle at the back we have the water outlets , here we store a 20 meter B hose coupled to the distributor for speed .

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Round at the back we have the pump ,this is a 2000 ltr version
The trays above hold everything you need to couple hoses to the pump ,the 4 lengths of suction hose are in the top tray


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On to the left hand side ,here we carry everything for the water troop to supply the pump with water ,these are all B hoses

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Further along in the middle fach is the reserve AG sets and reserve air bottles .
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This shows you how they fold out so you can get them on your back quicker .

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In the cabine are the main AG sets which are strapped on while you are going to the einsatz .

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Part 2 to follow


Max
 

Xerion

Member
Location
Deutschland
CrevisbigX
Thats a good question ,I was never in the fire service in the UK , I joined as a volenteer hear so I couldn't compare .
I would think we all work in the same way I hope JP1 and some of the guys will comment and give us the UK way of doing things .
I know this subject isn't strickly Ag related but I have discovered quiet a few firemen here on the board .
And if I am honest I hope from this post to get a lot more ,maybe getting a visit organised to the UK with some of my Kameraden and then inviting the UK guys back for a week end over here ,and lets see what we do the same and what we do different it could be fun and I am sure we will all learn something new .

Regards

Max
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Well as I am on the sick for another 2 weeks I have a bit of time to catch up on FFW things and today wash wash day for both machines and a general sort out in the geräte haus . So I thought I would show you guys some of our kit over here in germany and see how it compares to your uk kit .
This is our LF (Löschgruppenfahrzuuge sitting in the station

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Heres looking down the right hand side the first Fach contains the major rescue equipment , generator , chain saws ,angle grider etc

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The middle Fach contains larger items like hydrant ,hydrant key ,60 litres of foam mix plus foam cannon etc and a lafette for the static water thrower .

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The last Fach on the right hand side is all the tools for the attack troop B,C nozzels ,C hose baskets with 60 meters in each basket etc

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On both sides of the vechicle at the back we have the water outlets , here we store a 20 meter B hose coupled to the distributor for speed .

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Round at the back we have the pump ,this is a 2000 ltr version
The trays above hold everything you need to couple hoses to the pump ,the 4 lengths of suction hose are in the top tray


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On to the left hand side ,here we carry everything for the water troop to supply the pump with water ,these are all B hoses

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Further along in the middle fach is the reserve AG sets and reserve air bottles .
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This shows you how they fold out so you can get them on your back quicker .

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In the cabine are the main AG sets which are strapped on while you are going to the einsatz .

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Part 2 to follow


Max

Brilliant photos

Thanks for sharing

How many litres of water on the appliance? Do you often have to make up for water carriers or is the hydrant network quite good?
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
CrevisbigX
Thats a good question ,I was never in the fire service in the UK , I joined as a volenteer hear so I couldn't compare .
I would think we all work in the same way I hope JP1 and some of the guys will comment and give us the UK way of doing things .
I know this subject isn't strickly Ag related but I have discovered quiet a few firemen here on the board .
And if I am honest I hope from this post to get a lot more ,maybe getting a visit organised to the UK with some of my Kameraden and then inviting the UK guys back for a week end over here ,and lets see what we do the same and what we do different it could be fun and I am sure we will all learn something new .

Regards

Max

I'm sure you have to go to agricultural incidents ;)

Someone will have to make a hell of a hullabaloo to get it moved :(
 

Xerion

Member
Location
Deutschland
We carry 1200 lt to start the first attack ,that should give us enough time to get a hydrant going .
Network is not to bad a good average here in the village is 1000 lt min but we do have 3 large 40,000 lt tanks buried in the village for real emergencys
If you are wondering about all the B hose we do have certain areas with out water mains and then we have to pump water over ground in total we alone can pump water nearly 3000 meters using pFPN 's (17 bar 2000 lt portable pumps )

Max
 

CrevisbigX

Member
Location
Cheshire
Never had a lot to do with the Fire brigade but with the eldest wanting to go into profession I find quite interesting. With us slurry pumping, Congleton has a hvp unit high volume pumps and spent last winter in Somerset pumping flood water.
 

DaveJ

Member
Location
Montgomeryshire
@Xerion the state of that appliance is a credit to you and your colleagues.

Differences with the UK are mainly in location of equipment, design of stowage and things like hose couplings. For example our hoses look to be heavier duty and are stored rolled on the female coupling. We carry 1800 l in the tank, but our hydrant coverage is pretty poor.
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
We carry 1200 lt to start the first attack ,that should give us enough time to get a hydrant going .
Network is not to bad a good average here in the village is 1000 lt min but we do have 3 large 40,000 lt tanks buried in the village for real emergencys
If you are wondering about all the B hose we do have certain areas with out water mains and then we have to pump water over ground in total we alone can pump water nearly 3000 meters using pFPN 's (17 bar 2000 lt portable pumps )

Max
Our Volvo's are 14 tonne and carry 1800 litres with foam additive capacity

We have a portable pump on a locker on the appliance that can pump about half that distance but can raise from 10m head

Your rescue kit the Dutch Holmatro ?
 

Xerion

Member
Location
Deutschland
Crevisbigx
Seems like the fire service are getting some bad press at the moment but don't let that put him off .
It was one of the best things I ever did !
You have to relise that here in Germany we have hardly any Proffessional fire services ,only in centres of poulation of over 100,000 .
Every thing else is covered by people like me .volenteers we don't get paid ,we don't get a retainer nothing not a cent but we still do it .
We have to have the same training as a proffessional fire men , once you have signed on the dotted line it is hard to get out .and on top of that we have full time jobs to go to .
Like you I am a contractor ,and when you are living on 5-6 hours sleep a night and you get called out in the middle of the night you really do have to dig deep
But I wouldn't change a thing .

Regards

Max
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Crevisbigx
Seems like the fire service are getting some bad press at the moment but don't let that put him off .
It was one of the best things I ever did !
You have to relise that here in Germany we have hardly any Proffessional fire services ,only in centres of poulation of over 100,000 .
Every thing else is covered by people like me .volenteers we don't get paid ,we don't get a retainer nothing not a cent but we still do it .
We have to have the same training as a proffessional fire men , once you have signed on the dotted line it is hard to get out .and on top of that we have full time jobs to go to .
Like you I am a contractor ,and when you are living on 5-6 hours sleep a night and you get called out in the middle of the night you really do have to dig deep
But I wouldn't change a thing .

Regards

Max

They are bringing in the volunteer category alongside retained in Suffolk now. Well done to you, I never did it for the money
 

Xerion

Member
Location
Deutschland
Basicly they are bought on price when a new unit is needed they get offers from the big 3 and then each unit has is own individual requirments and they hammer the best price out .
JP you would have what we call a LF20 ours is a LF10 a bit smaller
We carry no specialist rescue equipment that is carried on a HLF and the next village has one .
We are primarily a fire fighting group with limited rescue caperbilities ,we can start the the rescue and within 3 mins we have a designated HLF on site .
and yes they have the dutch kit on board .

max
 

DaveJ

Member
Location
Montgomeryshire
I haven't got many of our current appliance to hand, but will rectify that when I get a chance. I scanned the below for our old Watch Manger's retirement do:

The trailer pump issued in the 1940s at the opening of our current station in the 1660s. Apparently it was originally pulled by the local taxi!
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1970s. I believe this still had a petrol engine. Notorious for being overtaken by a pushbike en route to an emergency call
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This appliance had been replaced by the time I joined, but I went to a couple of shouts on it as it was Command Spare at the time so we had it whenever ours went for service.
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This Merc replaced the Bedford. It was a massive leap in capability and we have very fond memories of it. It was the first appliance I drove in anger too. The replacement is physically larger and while it has more power the transmission is cr@p and it handles like a barge in comparison.
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This is our current machine. The crew photo is a few years out of date. We don't all live on a diet of pie and chips, the kit is quite bulky.
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Xerion

Member
Location
Deutschland
They are bringing in the volunteer category alongside retained in Suffolk now. Well done to you, I never did it for the money

Sorry I shouldn't have put that in , I wasn't looking for a pat on the back I am nothing special .
It's not about money being a hero or anything special ,it's about being there for your comunity ,your neighbours your friends and your family .
I lived hear for 10 years before I joined I just wanted to give something back to a place that adopted us with open arms and helped us to find a place called home .

Max
 

Xerion

Member
Location
Deutschland
Dave looking good ,nothing wrong with pie and chips !!!!
I must admit I do prefer my black einsatz uniform to the yellow although they are threatning us with your style .:unsure:

Max
 

DaveJ

Member
Location
Montgomeryshire
Dave looking good ,nothing wrong with pie and chips !!!!
I must admit I do prefer my black einsatz uniform to the yellow although they are threatning us with your style .:unsure:

Max

We hadn't long had that kit and the Darth Vader style Rosenbauer helmets when that picture was taken. Prior to that we were in all black kit with traditional style helmets. The kit is excellent protection if going into a fire and nice and warm in the winter. However it's too bulky for grass fires or road traffic collisions so they have been talking (for a long time) of giving us a lighter weight second kit.
 

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