Waste antifreeze

[britt]

I think rather than paying for disposal, sprayer operators would pay something to you just to put in the sprayer over winter. Bugs me to pay good money for new antifreeze just to stop sprayer freezing up.

Put it in cans in spring and reuse it the following winter. You can always test the strength of it.

 

[radar]

Put it in cans in spring and reuse it the following winter. You can always test the strength of it.

Thats what I used to do when I religiously changed it every 2 years as stated in op handbook. Talking to dealer mechanic (JD) apparantly they now don't bother as in their case, Cool-Guard, is good for a lot longer than that.

 

[livestock 1]

In the case of the ford porous blocks I was told that the problem was caused by water bombardment. Bits of metal or rust in the coolant acting like a sand blaster eventually getting through the liners. It likley wouldn’t happen if it wasn’t rusting in the first place.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

In the case of the ford porous blocks I was told that the problem was caused by water bombardment. Bits of metal or rust in the coolant acting like a sand blaster eventually getting through the liners. It likley wouldn’t happen if it wasn’t rusting in the first place.

Our John Deere did this...couldn’t believe it had worn a hole through the liners!
Had to renew all the liners

 

[livestock 1]

Our John Deere did this...couldn’t believe it had worn a hole through the liners!
Had to renew all the liners

Fords were terrible for it. The later ones with the criss cross block aren’t as bad and have a water inhibitor fitted. We had an earlier 4600 which was cooled on rusty water. Didn’t matter how many times we dropped the water and ran it on half antifreeze and half water it always ended up the same

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

I was told that the problem was caused by water bombardment

Yeah it’s called cavitation - microscopic bubbles form / get entrained in the liquid. When they “collapse” they slowly but surely erode the surface of the metal.

The same problem can affect hydraulic systems and cause pump failure.

 

[britt]

Thats what I used to do when I religiously changed it every 2 years as stated in op handbook. Talking to dealer mechanic (JD) apparantly they now don't bother as in their case, Cool-Guard, is good for a lot longer than that.

I was referring to the mix taken out of the sprayer.
I've never changed the coolant in an engine unless it has had to be drained for a reason.

 

[Exfarmer]

The older propylene glycol had to be replaced as it evaporated over time, you can buy testers to establish the amount of antifreeze in the system to enable topping up if it was too dilute. Ethylene glycol should not be prone to this

 

[Exfarmer]

Yeah it’s called cavitation - microscopic bubbles form / get entrained in the liquid. When they “collapse” they slowly but surely erode the surface of the metal.

The same problem can affect hydraulic systems and cause pump failure.

Cavitation in hydraulic systems is totally different, this occurs when the pump is pulling from the reservoir faster than it can supply, possibly due to the filtration being blocked. this create vacuum bubbles which collapse in the pump itself and will shatter pumps. We had this on a timber harvester which had come with one inch pipe work eventually after 3 or 4 pumps smashing them selves was upgraded to 4 inch pipe work

 

[Lazy Sod]

I test my antifreeze every year by putting a sample in the freezer which is set at -18. My method is to use a syringe with a bit of plastic pipe on it and some of the black canisters that camera film rolls used to come in.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

Cavitation in hydraulic systems is totally different, this occurs when the pump is pulling from the reservoir faster than it can supply, possibly due to the filtration being blocked. this create vacuum bubbles which collapse in the pump itself and will shatter pumps. We had this on a timber harvester which had come with one inch pipe work eventually after 3 or 4 pumps smashing them selves was upgraded to 4 inch pipe work

Cavitation is the same principle: the bursting or collapsing of tiny bubbles - in hydraulics it can happen for various reasons, including the one you mention but also due to poor design or construction of pumps, or a variety of other reasons where there are uneven pressure pockets that can then form bubbles. The end result is the same though as the shock waves from the collapsing bubbles hit against the hardened metal surface and pit and erode the metal.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Put it on eBay .....everything else seems to sell on there !!

 

[radar]

I was referring to the mix taken out of the sprayer.
I've never changed the coolant in an engine unless it has had to be drained for a reason.

In that case I would fill the sprayer up with water and spray it out on bare ground and not record it. Cant be any different than spraying spray washings out.

 

[britt]

In that case I would fill the sprayer up with water and spray it out on bare ground and not record it. Cant be any different than spraying spray washings out.

My point was that you can drain the sprayer in spring into cans, then put the same mix back in the following winter, therefore no need to buy fresh antifreeze. Nothing to dispose of either.

 

[Robt]

Lots of cats in East Yorkshire...,, on a real note. How big is your sprayer? Pour it into that and dilute with aqua. Best way!

 

[ollie989898]

Put the stuff ina slurry store. The bugs will eat it.

 

[caveman]

Local legit vehicle breakers may take it for a price or point you in the right direction.

 

[pine_guy]

I test my antifreeze every year by putting a sample in the freezer which is set at -18. My method is to use a syringe with a bit of plastic pipe on it and some of the black canisters that camera film rolls used to come in.

Doesn’t tell you if their is too much in, which I thought can reduce the cooling ability. But in like the thinking.

 

[Lazy Sod]

Doesn’t tell you if their is too much in, which I thought can reduce the cooling ability. But in like the thinking.

Too much of what?

 

[Brisel]

In Scandinavia and similar colder climates they run 100% antifreeze. You can’t have too much. I’m not sure how much less efficient it is at cooling than water.