Waste Carrier licence - what a joke.

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
As I understand it , you do not need a licence to take your own household waste to the tip, but if you are a trader, business or carrier of other peoples domestic waste , then you do.
If you turn up in a commercial vehicle of any sort (even households who run crew cab pickups as cars) the tip will turn you away if you don't have the necessary paperwork.
 

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
If you turn up in a commercial vehicle of any sort (even households who run crew cab pickups as cars) the tip will turn you away if you don't have the necessary paperwork.
Our local recycling center (suffolk) doesnt care if you arrive in a pickup. As long as you have said its your own waste and not from a business. I have been 5 times since lockdown. I have taken card board which has come from home improvements, no problem at all. No paperwork needed . Have you actually tried to go in your pickup?
 

Bongodog

Member
You need a licence to carry scrap, or building waste, easy to get and free.

Building waste always counts as upper tier even if you have produced it yourself, which does require a paid for licence that has to be renewed every three years.
Probably due to so much fly tipping being building waste and its relative cost to clear up.
Our local recycling center (suffolk) doesnt care if you arrive in a pickup. As long as you have said its your own waste and not from a business. I have been 5 times since lockdown. I have taken card board which has come from home improvements, no problem at all. No paperwork needed . Have you actually tried to go in your pickup?

Consider yourself lucky, come over the border to Cambridgeshire, nothing allowed into the recycling centre thats larger than a standard size transit van, any van or car with a small trailer has to buy a book of permits, no more than 12 visits a year, and since lockdown everyone including car drivers has to book a slot in advance.
No surprise fly tipping has gone through the roof. Of course our recycling centres are controlled by the County Council yet picking up flytipping is done by the district councils. One council saves a pound and costs the other one ten.
 

Enfoff

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
East
Council sites are licensed by the EA and most are for domestic waste only so they have to prove that measures are taken to prohibit trade waste.
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
I don't know how they have the nerve to call them recycling centres any more. I used to come out with more than I went in!

Council dumps (let's use the correct terminology) used to be great sources of used corrugated iron, timber, even the occasional bicycle, but not now. Some enterprising bin men used to select out anything useful and put it aside with a price tag of £1 (regardless). The jobs worths soon put a stop to that. It made far too much sense and was far too useful to the local community!
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
Theres a lot out there you can also pay/hack to have your site show up first

They should carry the label Ad (for Advert) or Sponsored, or something, but they don't always.

A lot of the "hits" boasted about by some outfits come from their own generated system, or from the unsuspecting clicking on the first links shown by a search.
 

Gong Farmer

Member
BASIS
Location
S E Glos
Building waste always counts as upper tier even if you have produced it yourself, which does require a paid for licence that has to be renewed every three years.
Probably due to so much fly tipping being building waste and its relative cost to clear up.


Consider yourself lucky, come over the border to Cambridgeshire, nothing allowed into the recycling centre thats larger than a standard size transit van, any van or car with a small trailer has to buy a book of permits, no more than 12 visits a year, and since lockdown everyone including car drivers has to book a slot in advance.
No surprise fly tipping has gone through the roof. Of course our recycling centres are controlled by the County Council yet picking up flytipping is done by the district councils. One council saves a pound and costs the other one ten.
Can take pickup or van to our tip but slots are few and often wait three weeks. Need to declare online that it's your own household waste and take ID with you, otherwise no issues.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
Our local recycling center (suffolk) doesnt care if you arrive in a pickup. As long as you have said its your own waste and not from a business. I have been 5 times since lockdown. I have taken card board which has come from home improvements, no problem at all. No paperwork needed . Have you actually tried to go in your pickup?
I know people who have been turned away, though that was some time back. You have to apply for a permit it delivering with a commercial vehicle or with a trailer. Though its not an arduous task... by rights I would not be able to take domestic waste in with my pickup or I would be in breach of HMRC rules regarding VAT and domestic use of a commercial vehicle :rolleyes:
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
I don't know how they have the nerve to call them recycling centres any more. I used to come out with more than I went in!

Council dumps (let's use the correct terminology) used to be great sources of used corrugated iron, timber, even the occasional bicycle, but not now.
There is lots of perfectly good furniture in there. A friend saw someone about to put a small chainsaw in the skip as he couldn't get it to cut. Took it home and put the chain on right way round.
 

dudders

Member
Location
East Sussex
Scrap has a use and a value so should it be classed as waste?
It shouldn't - but it is. Sad, I know.

Going up the M11 a while ago, centre lane with plenty of traffic and 60-ish mph, I noticed vehicles ahead weaving left and right sharpish. Before I knew, it was my turn - big metal filing cabinet in the middle of my lane. o_O

A few miles further on, I passed a scrap-dealer's lorry with metal stuff sticking out of the top.
 
I don't know how they have the nerve to call them recycling centres any more. I used to come out with more than I went in!

Council dumps (let's use the correct terminology) used to be great sources of used corrugated iron, timber, even the occasional bicycle, but not now. Some enterprising bin men used to select out anything useful and put it aside with a price tag of £1 (regardless). The jobs worths soon put a stop to that. It made far too much sense and was far too useful to the local community!

Our tip has an attached shop where folk can drop off items which someone else may have a use for , better than just binning it .
 

PostHarvest

Member
Location
Warwick
It does seem crazy. If I travel to my local "recycling centre" in my double cab pickup with everything safe and secure, I am classed as a trader regardless of what the material is and have to pay by weight. But others can take the same type of material stuffed into a car, hanging out of the windows, obscuring the drivers vision and controls, it seems that is legal and acceptable. Its no wonder that so much stuff is dumped in every gateway and bylane.
 

Bongodog

Member
It does seem crazy. If I travel to my local "recycling centre" in my double cab pickup with everything safe and secure, I am classed as a trader regardless of what the material is and have to pay by weight. But others can take the same type of material stuffed into a car, hanging out of the windows, obscuring the drivers vision and controls, it seems that is legal and acceptable. Its no wonder that so much stuff is dumped in every gateway and bylane.
Rules is rules, round here if you want to take your old sofa to the tip, don't do the sensible thing and borrow the work van/pickup as you will be turned away not just charged as commercial, put it on the car roof and tie it down with some old washing line and you are waved in no problem. Our local skip hire magnate Mick George is laughing all the way to the bank as its our only way now to get rid of anything that won't fit in the car boot.
 

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